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Rotavele October 30th, 2014 6:01pm

(True/False) If we have a gay president in the future, he will be the second gay president.

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bMyComrade Stumptown
10/31/14 12:56 pm

None confirmed, only suspected. And so there's no way of knowing. Therefore this can't be a known true or false.

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jamichl Seattle
10/30/14 8:53 pm

Truly, wtf? Try asking "out" ... then they be #1. Even then, this is a fairly modern concept.

saulecker Durham, NC
10/30/14 8:04 pm

Third or fourth or tenth...

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/30/14 7:00 pm

Could be, but it doesn't really matter much, and it doesn't matter at all from a social benefit standpoint unless he or she is openly gay, serving as a role model.

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tclark tussle me
10/30/14 6:37 pm

Why not third or fourth?

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spicysteve M14D SBS
10/30/14 4:22 pm

I think James Buchanan was gay

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skinner Wisconsin
10/30/14 3:07 pm

We don't know the answer. It's not as simple as true or false. Some argue he was a homosexual, but Buchanan could have been celibate or asexual

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
10/30/14 8:44 pm

Buchanan lost his fiance who died. It's more likely he thought she was the one and only.

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 8:58 pm

She killed herself, that was so sad to read. Hopefully in a few years when the majority fully supports it, we no longer have women who have to endure the pain she did of having a closeted husband who really didn't love you that way you thought. :/

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 8:59 pm

I can only imagine those women's pain from that. From what I've heard they usually blame themselves and believe they "turned them gay". The guys should at least just not marry.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
10/30/14 9:22 pm

Do we know for sure she killed herself because of that? There are many reasons people kill themselves, like a clinical depression.

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 9:24 pm

No that wasn't sole reason I am sure, but I can bet it definitely impacted it. It would be like you being married, can't leave it because you're a man/woman, and he's always flirting with someone else. You can't do anything about it in those times.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
10/30/14 9:45 pm

In those times, it also was likely they had no sex before marriage, so she might not have known. Killing yourself over unsatisfactory love happens more often in novels than real life. Unless you have facts, you may be barking up the wrong tree.

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 9:47 pm

The articles below was where I got my information and about her suicide. No one can say for sure because she didn't leave a note.

rons screw politicians
10/30/14 2:38 pm

But I think Hillary is straight.

bMyComrade Stumptown
10/31/14 12:58 pm

It's suspected, no solid proof

FacePalm That Trick Never Works
10/30/14 1:35 pm

I said true simply because it's entirely possible - given how unlikely it is that he would have been open about it.

vin woof
10/30/14 1:31 pm

I heard Hilary was gay.

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vin woof
10/30/14 1:31 pm

Maybe even the third. How would any one really know since they'd most certainly be in the closet

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TierasPet
10/30/14 4:47 pm

That's what I thought too.

chinito Florida
10/30/14 12:42 pm

It would be so cool. The White House will look fabulous!

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/30/14 11:55 am

Only the second? I thought there were a couple that were/might've been? But yeah. He or she would only be the first to be openly described as gay.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 12:33 pm

JFK - had a gay "boyfriend" named Lem Billings who he was in an emotional relationship with, but no sex.
Thomas Jefferson - Stereotype mostly: had a lisp, very fashionable, loved interior design, and bitchy about how he had to have everything fancy.

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 12:34 pm

Lyndon Johnson - Very well known for being overly sexual with women. He had a white house aid who was constantly with him and in private. That worker was then caught in the white house bathroom having sex with another man.

susanr Colorado
10/30/14 11:34 am

Seems very likely, from what I've heard.

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voc I am...what I am
10/30/14 11:24 am

Some have also said Lincoln was gay.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 11:26 am

I've heard that and looked a bit into it. The only evidence seems to support it is that he slept in bed with a guy for warmth for 4 years.

Though many historians say he absolutely loved Mary.

susanr Colorado
10/30/14 11:33 am

Well, he could have been bisexual.

Not that I care. And people had some unconventional, by today's standards, sleeping arrangements in the past anywasy, especially when traveling. Or very cold, probably.

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 11:36 am

Very true. They didn't have heat back then in the north, plus homosexuality wasn't exactly "Eww!" Back then, it was more of just a mental illness to be cured. I'm surprised they were so moderate towards Buchanen, especially Andrew Jackson.

ShineyLib Jeans
10/30/14 12:32 pm

Lincoln was definitely one of the straights

chinito Florida
10/30/14 12:57 pm

I have heard about Lincoln before. Also about Buchanan and Nixon. On the other hand, I have also heard that Michelle Obama is really a man making Barak also a gay president.

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 11:02 am

Inconceivable - Likely True. James Buchanan is regarded among historians as the first gay president due to refusing to marry a woman and living with "his wife" Alabama Senator William Rufus King. They were called "Miss Nancy and Aunt Fancy"

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Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 11:04 am

They lived together for 15 years, slept in the same bed, and we're even referred to as Husband and Wife by Andrew Jackson.

He was a conservative-democrat who sympathized with southerners and ranked one of the worst president in history.

hrankta
10/30/14 11:08 am

Huh! I did not know that!

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 11:20 am

He also have many public love letters in which the two talked about how afraid they were that they'd find another man for affection when he became ambassador to France. They also spoke about how they wouldn't leave each other.

Very interesting.

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 11:21 am

potus-geeks.livejournal.com/62595.html

Here's some of the high lights of their love letters

USA1st
10/30/14 11:23 am

I knew there was a President during that time period who is suspected to be gay, but I had forgotten his name. Surprised its not more well known.

missmorganmarie ...
10/30/14 11:23 am

well $hit. don't show the user kittles. they might have a massive coronary

missmorganmarie ...
10/30/14 11:24 am

this is fascinating. thanks for posting btw :)

Rotavele Alabama
10/30/14 11:40 am

Well I guess this means conservatives got the first gay president and liberals got the first African American.

Politically that may be good to use in this next or the election after that when homosexuality is much more accepted.