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Show Of Hands October 26th, 2014 3:36pm

Do you think a person's sexual orientation is determined before her/his birth or after?

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redpill
11/01/14 2:08 pm

I think it's before. Way, way before conception... when you were still in Heaven. You agreed to be born gay on Earth. It can be a difficult life and many (and their families) will fail.

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Think Lovin Life
11/01/14 10:43 pm

Oh please! Are you a drama queen?

Where's the science to support your silly assertion?

redpill
11/02/14 3:39 am

Why bother. You guys will never read it anyways. But if you must. Start with irreducible mind, which proves the soul exist.

rightnow2016
10/30/14 12:19 pm

I don't recall "becoming" gay.

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Independent101 Be For America
10/31/14 8:19 pm

What does that even mean?

WittyAmerican Scottsdale
10/30/14 11:43 am

This is a hard question to answer since no one actually knows.

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Think Lovin Life
10/30/14 2:31 pm

Of course we know. It's called choice. Only some gays believe they need some science to hide behind so they don't have to take responsibility for their choices.

Outspoken Castor, Louisiana
10/30/14 6:04 am

But people aren't gay until they are born ,people dont just come out gay it happens over time ,

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Think Lovin Life
10/30/14 2:28 pm

Yep, it's called choice.

Outspoken Castor, Louisiana
10/31/14 6:04 am

But people who are confused,don't know what to decide , I think it's what they have been through in the past

Think Lovin Life
10/31/14 1:58 pm

Out ... ya, and sometimes you may be confused about what to eat for dinner as well. It doesn't mean you're a fish!

Some who choose a gay lifestyle are mature enough to accept their choice. Others need someone/thing to blame for their choices.

Outspoken Castor, Louisiana
11/07/14 7:36 am

Well I was vegetarian but now I eat meat again ,but I'm not confused,and I'm mature

Outspoken Castor, Louisiana
11/07/14 7:36 am

Well I was vegetarian but now I eat meat again ,but I'm not confused,and I'm mature

Think Lovin Life
11/07/14 7:40 am

Out ... so who's at fault for your choice? Are your cuisine choices genetic?

Outspoken Castor, Louisiana
11/07/14 7:42 am

It's our choice.. And people have life choices,

divery
10/29/14 10:59 am

What about during birth?

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Ivyra Earth
10/28/14 7:23 pm

Sexuality is fluid.

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Think Lovin Life
10/30/14 2:30 pm

Ha ha ... where's the science to support this?

Reaper31292 Israel
10/28/14 9:27 am

It's most likely a combination of both genetic and environmental factors so this question is somewhat unfair.

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mamalisa California
10/28/14 8:09 am

I think it depends honestly. Both.

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whizkid USA
10/28/14 3:14 am

Leviticus 18:22. Just sayin'.

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Think Lovin Life
10/28/14 1:29 am

Gender is defined at conception by the chromosomes.

Sexual preference maybe influenced by life experiences, and may include unnatural choices.

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MissSelfDstruct Oregon
10/27/14 11:10 pm

Why do people automatically associate the attraction of two same sex people with abuse? You're so narrow minded that you can't possibly fathom two people of the same gender having sex, so you turn toward sexual and/or physical abuse as the answer?

Beastm0de108
10/27/14 8:51 pm

I agree I think both because many dudes and chicks change when there raped

Argonaut Yang 2020
10/27/14 8:14 pm

Both. From what I understand sexual orientation can be attributed to epigenetics, which can change throughout a persons life

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kirilyn College Town
10/27/14 6:30 pm

It is both. I know a few survivors of sexual abuse prefer to be with their own sex as a result.

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liveinlove
10/27/14 2:52 pm

Don't really care...

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dfish at home
10/27/14 2:00 pm

What difference does it make?

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penguinlord Ohio
10/27/14 3:00 pm

The entire argument of religious homophobes.

house ohio
10/27/14 5:10 pm

the entire argument of intolerant bigoted christophobes

house ohio
10/27/14 5:12 pm

see what I did there? I used your statement and made it my own.

MissSelfDstruct Oregon
10/27/14 10:59 pm

Lol, house, you're so edgy.

Indianasks Indiana
10/27/14 10:56 am

The God-Hating "homosexuals" choose this as a way to rebel against GOD. Repent and be saved from our rebellion!

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dfish at home
10/27/14 1:55 pm

You do realize that you're not helping people come to Jesus with statements like that but rather turning them further away and giving Christians a bad name.
No, you must know that. You are clearly a TROLL

liveinlove
10/27/14 2:53 pm

Lol...you sound a bit ridiculous

dajafa Everywhere
10/27/14 7:29 pm

Wait...-our- rebellion? so you, JesusLover, are homosexual? Well, with that name...I guess you have made a Hispanic man very lucky.

LeDerpityDerp We are not our failures
10/27/14 10:11 am

I just can't help but laugh at some of the arguments when it comes to this..

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drself Gated Community
10/27/14 9:28 am

This seems to be a trick question
If you mean by orientation male or female it is prior to birth
However if you choose to ignore the fact that you are male or female then you will choose your lifestyle after

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TiredofIt Texas
10/27/14 8:32 am

Wow I didn't expect these results. I'm so sick of the conservatives being the "anti-science" party but this issue and abortion just prove how false that charge is. I'm sorry, but if it's Before birth it's from a gene. Please name that gene......

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TiredofIt Texas
10/27/14 8:34 am

Answer: you can't because we have sequenced the entire human genome and found no such thing as a straight or gay gene meaning that sexuality is meant to be based on external factors and specifically to facilitate reproduction. It's a choice.

TiredofIt Texas
10/27/14 8:36 am

I'm fine with people making that choice if they want to and to have sex with whoever you want, but I would like the supposed "pro-science" party to acknowledge these basic facts about science.

dajafa Everywhere
10/27/14 7:13 pm

Rofl...it is not a "gay gene"...it is a mutation in a sequence of genes that cause attraction to the same sex instead of the opposite...seriously, do some science research before you try to shoot down an entire group of stereotyped people.

TiredofIt Texas
10/27/14 7:16 pm

Ummm I have done the research. If it's a mutation, we should be able to see the difference. That's kind of what I mean by genes. We have not found any difference in DNA sequencing and if you were correct, we would have. If I'm wrong, prove it.

Think Lovin Life
10/28/14 1:33 am

Biology is clear, gender is assigned at conception. Preference or attraction is a choice.

albyunderwater Yesterday
10/30/14 11:44 am

Perhaps it's not a gene and more like the entire x or y chromosome...

TiredofIt Texas
10/30/14 12:01 pm

Ok. So where is the evidence that gays have any different X or Y chromosome. It would have to be the X bc women don't have a Y so where is the difference? This is my whole point. People want to say "well maybe...." But the science says Hell No.

Think Lovin Life
10/30/14 2:18 pm

JW ... or perhaps it's a group of people stretching to try to show some legitimacy for their choices in science that's simply not there.

blackphoenix New York
11/01/14 7:41 am

It doesn't even have to be a change in the DNA sequence. Epigenetic modifications have been known to cause many things, even type 2 diabetes.

Think Lovin Life
11/01/14 8:03 am

The weather "has been known" to influence food choices too. There is no scientific proof that gaety isn't a choice!

TiredofIt Texas
11/01/14 9:18 am

The point is, if it wasn't a choice, we would be able to see where it comes from. We can't. Therefore, it must be a choice. I know you libs don't like science but that's how it works...

Congressman Louisiana
10/27/14 6:41 am

I don't recall choosing to be straight. Seems I was that way from the beginning as my DNA formed. Can't imagine it being any different for homosexuals. You are who you are.

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bubbaman
10/27/14 8:07 am

Except, that many people are abused and that can have a powerful effect on their future behavior, to include sexual behavior. I'm not saying it's always the case, but it often plays a role.

bubbaman
10/27/14 8:13 am

I personally know people who thought that they were one way, and after a long though journey, came to believe they were a different way.

TiredofIt Texas
10/27/14 8:37 am

Your DNA says you should have sex with a woman to reproduce. There is no gay gene last time I checked the genome....

huskermedic Cincinnati
10/27/14 6:12 am

Medical yes, but as all things in the body things can get messed up. Since this is a political issue instead of medical we don't know the reasons why people are like this. That is a shame.

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bman4jets
10/27/14 5:50 am

Does it matter?

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esp Warwick RI
10/27/14 4:05 am

Better question cares it's none of my business what other people do in the bedroom

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b4mytime Orange County, CA
10/27/14 2:23 am

We're ignoring the larger question: is our stance on chunky vs. smooth peanut butter determined before or after birth?

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TopsQueen Oregon Coast
10/26/14 11:39 pm

Before. Definitely not a choice.

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MissN The Experiment
10/26/14 9:38 pm

Both nature and nurture play a role.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/26/14 9:01 pm

Twin studies show it is determined afterward.

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sweetnes34 Outta Phucks
10/27/14 5:07 am

that would be interesting to read, do you have links?

Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/27/14 5:13 am

"en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation"
Here's a good starting place.

When you want a good overview of a subject, read the studies cited in the wikipedia article.

Think Lovin Life
10/30/14 2:21 pm

"Determined" ... ya, determined by choices after gender is assigned at conception.

walkerbrault Minnesota
10/26/14 9:00 pm

It's both. You get the genes ( and pseudo genes or whatever they're officially known as now) before birth but they way they are expressed is determined after birth

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
10/26/14 8:45 pm

I'm bi & have no idea why. I've just always been sexually attracted to both genders. But, it took me over a decade of self loathing & failed attempts to be "normal" plus a few years of therapy to finally accept my own sexual orientation.All because I

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
10/26/14 8:45 pm

wanted to be straight so badly, to be accepted by society. So, whenever or however it's determined, I cannot profess to know. I only know that even though it was not at all what I wanted for myself, I couldn't change it no matter how hard I tried.

Krystina Let Freedom Reign
10/26/14 8:52 pm

So, truth be told, it doesn't matter when it's determined, before birth, during puberty, whenever. It doesn't matter because it can't be changed anyway. Thankfully, I was finally able to accept that part of myself & stop caring what society thinks.

3acn
10/26/14 11:00 pm

a poll recently asked if you can disagree with homosexuality and still care about the person (to that effect anyway). Reading your post I do honestly sympathize with you and still hold to my belief that it is wrong. However, it is your decisision!

Congressman Louisiana
10/27/14 6:40 am

"Decision"

LOL

Think Lovin Life
10/30/14 4:34 am

Absolutely agree ... Gender, like eye color, is determined before birth. You can choose to get colored contacts and pretend to have a different biology, but the genes don't lie.

blossoming new beginnings
10/26/14 8:26 pm

It's before birth. But it doesn't matter

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Smyleysue
10/26/14 7:57 pm

I think most LGBT people are born that way. I do think that some people can have enough negative relationships with the opposite sex, and be open-minded enough about love, to end up in a relationship with someone of the same sex.

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cluney
10/26/14 7:19 pm

After. Thus the reason a large portion of homosexuals had a tough upbringing, no mom/dad, etcetera.

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dajafa Everywhere
10/27/14 7:16 pm

I had a rough upbringing, and I am not gay. Terribly rough. And I know SO MANY LGBT that had a perfect family and upbringing. It is not your family. it is not your home. it may BECOME rough when you fess up, however...but that is AFTER admittance.

jalapeno verdadero
10/26/14 6:30 pm

Genetics before you're born, which then interact with the environment (including in the womb) to determine sexual orientation on a continuum. But I suppose it doesn't really matter when/how insofar as rights are concerned.

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lmurder MDK
10/26/14 6:23 pm

After. They develop from interactions in our lifetime. My aunt was married but her husband beat her so he divorced him and munches rug now.

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epschen Missouri
10/26/14 7:25 pm

Don't be rude and derogatory

RebelProud Bungholio
10/26/14 9:31 pm

Don't be overly sensitive.

dajafa Everywhere
10/27/14 7:19 pm

A lot of people from older generations refused to self-admit homosexuality. They married straight. Had kids. Because that was "right". It is not a change, it is only accepting yourself. Unfortunately it took abuse to make her admit it. Best wishes!

fotoguy22 Florida
10/26/14 6:17 pm

Just as you can't choose eye color, height, gender, or naturally curly hair because you're born that way, the same is true for sexual orientation. Why is that so hard for some people to comprehend?

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cluney
10/26/14 7:14 pm

Because there is another side to that argument, and using completely irrelevant examples such as eye color does nothing to further your point.

dajafa Everywhere
10/27/14 7:23 pm

It actually DOES help his point. The aforementioned traits are genetic. As is your sexual preference. Now... what you look for in a man/woman is reasonably explained by Darwin. But preference is genetic. You cannot force yourself.

mrdudemanpants
10/26/14 6:14 pm

A basic lesson in psychology: typically one is influenced by a mix of genetics and upbringing.

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Wizzobutter
10/26/14 6:02 pm

I'm 98% certain it's before birth, however, I do remember reading that in Ancient Rome, homosexuality became popular. It could be both.

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wetheslaves Live each moment fully
10/26/14 5:48 pm

This question goes both ways.

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wetheslaves Live each moment fully
10/26/14 5:50 pm

Gender and hormones are genetic. How we choose to think is a series of lessons and choices.

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
10/26/14 5:50 pm

P.s. Forgive the pun

RJ1969 SoCal
10/26/14 5:53 pm

Come on. You've got better puns than that.

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
10/26/14 5:54 pm

I also wonder how people are interpreting the question. It can change your answer

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
10/26/14 5:54 pm

RJ you are the master, not me

3acn
10/26/14 5:43 pm

need to reword Q. We have a spiritual and physical body while here in earth. Before this life just a spirit. Our spirits also are male and female. And just like in this life it takes a male and female to create so is it in heaven.

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3acn
10/26/14 5:44 pm

the devil is trying to frustrate Gods plan by twisting genders and rolls.

DIT New York
10/26/14 5:56 pm

None of what you are saying is based off anything beside a book. Saying the type of people they are who they are attracted to are the work of the devil is what destroys people's lives.

3acn
10/26/14 6:08 pm

Its also based on the word of a current day Prophet and Apostles. Beyond that I can pray and ask God who will answer through his spirit. Which I have personally done.

b4mytime Orange County, CA
10/27/14 2:21 am

The devil wants to ruin God's plan, and he comes up with THAT? Do you really think God's plan will be defeated by a few women's softball teams and some quality Broadway productions?

Artonbay Where I am
10/27/14 8:04 am

Twisted rolls are delicious...figures the Devil made em

NikkiKitti47
10/26/14 5:11 pm

I say it's a mixed both

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PresWK Minnesota
10/26/14 5:09 pm

Came to the comment section to see the ensuing shitstorm. Was not disappointed.

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iBakes California
10/26/14 5:23 pm

Take a hit first, it's a rocky ride.

MrLove lovers, dreamers and me
10/26/14 7:05 pm

I don't think I have enough weed to make jokes in this poll. It's all so, so sad.

dlaw4570
10/26/14 5:02 pm

Re tapllidum
I don't even begin to understand your comment

Bev
10/26/14 5:01 pm

I don't know. That's my answer and should be everyone's answer. I don't know why I am heterosexual either if that helps. I just am. I'm guessing that this question is just plain insulting to homosexuals. If you believe it's a sin or something then

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Bev
10/26/14 5:02 pm

You have the right to believe it's a sin. But don't pretend to know "why" someone is whatever they are. Including pedophiles in this debate is asinine.

CTYankee!!! Connecticut
10/26/14 4:54 pm

If you chose to be heterosexual - you probably aren't.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 4:25 pm

If you believe you can choose between heterosexuality and homosexuality, then you're probably bisexual.

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