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Rotavele October 26th, 2014 8:55am

Today a former aide to Ronald Reagan, Douglas MacKinnon, has called for the south to peacefully secede over states rights for gay marriage. Should peaceful secession be allowed?

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RedHale Texas
10/29/14 8:12 pm

It should be legal, but this would be a stupid reason.

StilettoMiss SF med law, meme queen
10/27/14 1:22 pm

I wouldn't miss the South. They take more federal money than they provide. To hell with them.

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PrinceOberyn ANCIENT CITY STYLE
10/26/14 12:12 pm

No. All attempts to do so are treason.

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susanr Colorado
10/26/14 11:51 am

Please tell me that's a satire site. A country called Reagan?

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teachinla California
10/26/14 2:38 pm

Douglas MacKinnon is not listed as a White House speechwriter, nor is he to be found in Wikipedia. The whole thing is probably a joke to rile the liberals.

teachinla California
10/26/14 2:38 pm

Douglas MacKinnon is not listed as a White House speechwriter, nor is he to be found in Wikipedia. The whole thing is probably a joke to rile the liberals.

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 3:27 pm

No it's not satire, and yes he was a speech writer. There's hundreds of articles about it. Teachinla if you googled his name you should of saw that.

susanr Colorado
10/27/14 11:09 am

I don't think it's a joke; he has books listed on Amazon. Can't vouch for him being an official speechwriter but I saw phrasing in one of the articles about this that made it sound as if his contribution had been somewhat less than that.

susanr Colorado
10/28/14 11:30 pm

Update: The guy has reportedly been fired from his job as a Tampa newspaper columnist. Too wacky even for Florida?

gamerguy217
10/26/14 10:35 am

It won't happen for that reason. But if southern states wanted to, they should be able to. A modern civil war would be extraordinarily bloody. And it would cripple the global economy.

drewseph17 San Francisco
10/26/14 9:59 am

not for such a stupid reasoning as this.

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Maj Worth Economist
10/26/14 8:43 am

Hey... It sounds like 150 years ago! We don't want to treat people like people, and God said we shouldn't have to, but the Federal government says we DO have to. They're clearly overstepping!

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Maj Worth Economist
10/26/14 8:45 am

We could keep treating them like lesser citizens if we just had our Constitutionally granted right to do whatever the hell we want to in our states. Obviously, we should quit federation because treating people like crap is more important!

PrinceOberyn ANCIENT CITY STYLE
10/26/14 12:21 pm

I call burning Atlanta!

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
10/26/14 7:06 am

I think it would be best if we did split the country in two. See who actually survives.

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Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/26/14 7:16 am

You really think the south wants a rematch?

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
10/26/14 7:24 am

No, I think we could logically choose as a country to split in two. Let the liberals have one side and the conservatives another side. The conservative side would obviously get most of the military since the liberals are not a fan of it, good luck

Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/26/14 7:27 am

Where's your evidence liberals aren't a fan of the military? Or did you just pull that statement out of your ass?

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 7:28 am

That's true but here's the catch. You're imposing a religiously conservative state. You're the only one and the only other religious conservative states are Islamic. Europe isn't going to go near you, neither is China. Russia is possible.

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 7:29 am

However Russia's economy is equivalent to trading with Texas and they don't produce nearly enough to get what you need.

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 7:29 am

Abolitionist, most libs are usually in support of cutting defense spending.

Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/26/14 7:31 am

Cutting defense means they're not a fan of the military?

Rand Paul and the libertarian movement supports cutting defense spending. Does that mean they aren't fans of the military?

Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/26/14 7:33 am

If defense spending went more to soldiers, liberals & libertarians probably wouldn't have a problem but when the majority of defense spending goes to corporations in the military industrial complex & wasteful spending why keep giving them money?

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 8:10 am

Agreed. Dems also want to cut over seas defense which I support.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
10/26/14 8:47 am

Doesn't need to be an overly religious conservative state. But ideals and laws based on some religious standards is not bad

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 3:30 pm

It was called a Christian nation on the article. Go to rural Alabama and see if it's overly Christian lol. Tell me if it would be cool to have one of them as your governor.

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
10/26/14 3:40 pm

Didn't read the link almost never do. My comments were separate from that. We can have a conservative country with some religious ideas but not be overbearingly religious, just good morals and good people

rons WOKE is sick
10/26/14 5:38 am

It keeps getting sillier!

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GubraLagima Tramp 2016
10/26/14 5:37 am

Yes. I'm so tired of their nonsense, maybe if they left they'd shut up

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GubraLagima Tramp 2016
10/27/14 3:44 am

People in the south are always complaining about democrats, so if they left they wouldn't have anything to complain about. How is that not how it works?

twss trump is a garbage human
10/26/14 5:36 am

Sure, peaceful secession should be allowed. But over this 'state's rights' issue? That's ludicrous.

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jsmooseman You started it.
10/26/14 5:35 am

National IQ would go up if try left(;

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Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 6:15 am

It's only where it is because we ask tourists to do the tests for us.

GlockMan1 Alabama
10/26/14 5:20 am

Of course. We are tired of being dictated too by the idiots elected by Californians and New Yorkers.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 5:24 am

The country of Reagan will have religious law too! :)

GlockMan1 Alabama
10/26/14 5:33 am

By what authority do you know this?

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 5:35 am

It says it in the article and all over several of the right wing sources. "A Christian nation with Christian values" he also went into it to say that Alabama and Mississippi won't be welcomed until they get everything sorted out. Only GA, SC, and FL.

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 5:35 am

Also Texas won't be welcomed.

GlockMan1 Alabama
10/26/14 7:55 am

Do you seriously believe this could ever happen?

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 8:15 am

Normally I'd say no, but republicans on this app shock me everyday so I'm really no one to call shots if I think republicans would or would not do so. Email Koch Brothers or Exxon and they'll tell you what is likely to happen.

skinner Jersey City
10/26/14 4:56 am

No, secession is an illegal act that should not be tolerated.

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Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/26/14 6:55 am

It's amazing how different northern conservatives are compared to southern conservatives

skinner Jersey City
10/26/14 7:02 am

Some southern Republicans have an unfortunate tendency to be illogical on these kind of issues. If you are a southern apologist who opposes Lincoln's primary objectives in office then you may need to reassess your commitment to the Republican Party.

Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/26/14 7:11 am

You're right. I actually appreciate northern conservatives, respect their commitment to make America a better country, and could see myself voting for them in an election. I don't get the same vibe from the ones down here.

ButchBrewBaker Pennsyltuckey
10/26/14 4:45 am

Sure, they should be able to secede, but I doubt the federal government would allow it to be peaceful.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 5:19 am

My thoughts exactly.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
10/26/14 3:03 am

Sans his personal beliefs, any state should be able to willfully and peacefully secede should it want to. We have lost the 10th Amendment for all intent and purposes and live in an oligarchy.

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Pirate Uses the Tap
10/26/14 3:00 am

Yes but not for that reason.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 2:35 am

For clarification there's articles calling this guy a conservative, but he looks further right wing than the tea party at this point. He's wrote several articles mad that Fox News wasn't harsh enough on dems and the GOP isn't harsh enough on gays and

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Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 2:38 am

"Mexicans". He also made several racial comments about "the mexicans invading Texas." If you're interested in seeing these gems, link is below.

townhall.com/columnists/douglasmackinnon/

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
10/26/14 2:01 am

Wouldn't miss them financially
The Red states rake the most help from the federal government and complain the loudest about people that are on public assistance...

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HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
10/26/14 2:02 am

lol... typo... didn't intend to use "rake" sb Take. ... but it kind of fits. .

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 2:06 am

Yes but the day after secede I can already let you know that I won't be able to be on this app anymore. They will send me to a gay-away camp.

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
10/26/14 2:12 am

Sorry Rota....I know... Family... Friends .. keeps you there..
In general, The Blue States are a better atmosphere to be LGBT
Might consider vacationing in one and look to move?

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 2:14 am

I have been but financially, educationally, and etc is hard :P. I will soon, at the latest hopefully by the time I'm 25.

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
10/26/14 2:17 am

I believe in the power of Positive thinking.
You stay focused and positive.. you'll have it
plus... you're young enough to make things happen.. :)
My life has been quite a bumpy ride
But at 59.. I'm marrying the love of my life.

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
10/26/14 2:18 am

Never Ever thought it would happen in My Life Time!
Marriage Equality.... :)

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 2:21 am

Congrats on your engagement!! Also, I know right? When I first came out it was a lot harder than it was now, and that was only 5 years ago. Gay marriage seemed to jump in approval all at once. I thought it would take so much longer than it did.

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
10/26/14 2:27 am

Obama. ... 100% Responsible
He will go down in American History as the Greatest Civil Rights President

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
10/26/14 7:29 am

Say anything you want Blue..
Obama hits the Cover off the ball in Human Rights!

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
10/26/14 8:48 am

Obama is the biggest joke. And finances are more important than anything he has done

Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 1:58 am

Yes he wants the new nation to be Christian with religious law.

Also The Right Wing Watch (Online News) has already began reporting on this story that hopefully does not turn into anything serious.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/26/14 2:06 am

Here's another source for you guys who believe Washington Post is biased. www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2014/10/author_calls_for_south_to_sece.html