Do you think it's possible to completely secure our borders without violating people's civil rights?
Is it possible to totally secure the White House without violating people's rights? Same thing!
If you commit a crime by entering our country illegally you should have no rights. If you commit an illegal act you loose your rights. The people that would be affected are the illegals.Oh wait have to be politically correct undocumented citizens
short and sweetly: I agree!
DMZ that shit
I do not care about other people's civil rights. Especially if they are jot legal Americans!
securing our borders really has nothing to do with civil rights. it has to do with the fact that it is illegal to enter this country covertly. illegal entry compromises the safety and security of the Amercian people.
Take a good look at Israel. it is as open society as it can be with the security issues they face. if we truly want to secure our borders we will have to sacrifice certain rights for security. its a bad bargain.
Well, there is simply no way to make anything in life COMPLETELY secure...period.
Fix the loopholes in the deportation laws so indicdents like Sacramento won't happen again. If an illegal commits a violent crime or smuggles illegal things (guns, substance, DV, CA etc) and gets deported, he/she stays gone.
Yes, it's possible. We can still send help but we need to take care of our own first.
Yes. Just make it such a shitty place to live that no one wants to enter.
Who is"people's"?Please note that building a wall would not keep our people in,unlike the old Soviet Union. It would be to protect our sovereignty & keep bad people out,while managing a positive immigration system. It would protect US citizen rights.
This is a trick question. Who's civil rights?
duh yes! Civil refers to civilian rights. Civilians belong to a society. If you dont beling to the society called the US then restricting their access to a society other than their own is well within their rights and mine.
didn't realize how confusing that sounded until I re read. Your civilian rights are dictated by the country you belong to. The US is not responsible for protecting civilian rights for people who claim or belong to another society.
there that's better
I'm an American. I visit canada. My passport is stolen while there. How much longer am I locked out of my country while a low level agent decides if I'm a terrorist? How much of my personal life do I have to share with mr agent?
Of course, what kind of question is this? Only Americans have constitutionally protected civil rights.
Yes building a giant fence does not infringe on anyone's rights.
funny how liberals think illegal immigrants have civil rights
It is possible to do so and maintain the civil rights of all Americans. Illegal aliens do not have legal rights in this country.
Uh, it's not possible to completely secure our borders. The bit about civil rights is a red herring.
Fort America will do more to hurt this country than help it. We can't stop it, just like Italy and Spain can't stop it, and no one has ever been able to stop it. Best we can do is actually deal with the influx before it gets worse in effected areas.
Civil rights are not an issue if you are here or trying to enter a country illegally.
Yeah! You aren't supporting the demoncrats like they expect!
I agree. It's freedom of movement. And you should be allowed to sell your land to a person regardless of what country they came from.
Does anyone else find it ironic that EVERY state on the border says yes!? Easy to say "No" when it's someone else's problem.
How about these 2 officers civil rights?
Oh ya, They're dead. Never mind.
If you are crazy enough to want to get into North Korea, you can do it. Completely secure borders are an impossibility. It is just a matter of how much money do you want to throw at the problem. Advances in technology will eventually solve it.
No, but I'm ok with that.
Someone please give me one reason why our borders should not be secure. Anyone
It's not for political reasons at least. Obama can put more people down there and republicans will cry about spending issues or he can not do anything and people will say he's letting in terrorists.
By the way anyone reading this who thinks ISIS could come in the borders, if you're looking for terrorists they won't come in down south. The Canadian border is 3x as long with only 2,200 people working it, the Mexican border has 18,500.
LRM ... net ... there is no good reason not to secure the border. All the left can do is distract and hope that'll take the heat off the Derelict-in-Chief.
Civil rights for who?? The illegal fuckers coming into this country?? They no rights. I understand a few will fall through the cracks but tens of thousands at one time, fuck no. I would love to go down to the border with a high powered sniper rifle.
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No he's not a troll at all. He's even further right wing than you can possibly imagine.
You should of saw his nazi comments.
Let's treat the illegals like the Mexicans an Chinese do ... they broke the law and should be jailed and then ejected from the country.
And make people show ID? How would illegals get in to vote?
Fake i.d. Genius. The democrats are giving them out.
WHERE??!? I'm 20, have been looking for a fake ID that says I'm 21 for about 7 years now, bacos tell me where I get one! I can't believe they're holding out on me :/ I even worked on the democratic campaigns in 2012.
How would securing our border violate anyone's rights?
Since they're illegal aliens, they don't have civil rights
Army time at the border.
I can't believe this is even a question and that 49% of this country is complete idiots
Another thing, civil rights and civil liberties are different. Has no one read the Constitution?
Most people have not, that's why we have so many idiots in our country
There are ways to get around walls.
Yeah, over, under, through, etc. your point?
What we should be discussing is ADEQUATELY securing the borders.
And build a plan to repatriate those that make it THEU. They shouldn't be incented to try to sneak across with a free pass if they make it.
The incentive to come is freedom and prosperity here and chaos in Latin America, I don't see that changing any time soon, and I think that's hard to change in a meaningful way.
The incentive is free med care, welfare/food stamps; sucky jobs that are significantly better than home; a new form of slavery minus the boats, whips & chains; plus all the "comforts" of home (same language, culture, food, etc.)
Foreigners don't HAVE civil rights in this country.
I think building a decent wall, empowering border agents to do random checks, and enforcing existing immigrant law would suffice. Also, voter ID laws. Going too much further would be getting to a police state though.
who cares, if you have nothing to hide you should be proud to prove your citizenship, or the legal status that permits you into this fine nation.
fun fact, a huge number of "illegal" immigrants come from China.
think about that.
CHINA. Have fun with you bullshit cheap govt built wall. how cute.
The Model Minority theory applies here. Aside from driving, there's not many negative stereotypes towards Asians.
There are plenty towards Latiños and Latiñas.
There is no tilda on the n in LatiNos/ latiNas.
Did you not see that I put it there?
It's not even supposed to be there
he's right. thats not a word.
Sure Latino is a word, just pronounce in English... Some PC friends wanted to eat Latino food but couldn't find a Latino restaurant, go figure!
Wait ... so Rota tried to be sympathetic to Latinos and screwed it up? Ha ha!
What can we expect from leftists?
It was purposely added for flair *facepalms*
As many times as I've looked up latino porn I think I know how to spell it.
Nice attempted recovery ...
Also if you've ever taken a Spanish class you'd know "eñe" is pronounced like Enye.
Republicans are scared of Spanish though, so I'm sure you haven't. "It's are cuntry speek English"
Would you like to see a poll I did two days ago with it spelled with out the ñ?
By the way Think. By chance is your name Trig?
Anyways the point is ñ is a Spanish letter. The redneck republican group doesn't know this, but it is. Also it adds flair to add it to "Latino" as in La-Teen-Yo. Obviously it's not a word, but I didn't think I'd be talking to simple minded people
who actually seriously thought it was a word. Then I remembered this app has a ton of republicans and people who take it for face value. Its kind of sad. Anywho off to bigger and better things.
Rita ... You are the typical Democrat ... An ego so large you're unable to admit your failures, and attempt to distract when called out. I feel sorry for you.
You remind me so much of sarah palin. You don't know what you're talking about and pretend you do. Literally look at my poll where it had it without the ñ. I don't know if republicans even try to think sometimes.
The even more sad part is I was going to post it without the ñs but I stopped and said "Hey this will be kind of artistic and Spanish-like" it made me feel kind of cultural and then you have a republican come in "I can speak Mexican gooder than u!"
Then again, republicans are so out of touch with artistic style and such... I just don't even have words for it. Especially Idáho.
Rota ... me thinks thou doth protest a wee bit too much! It's ok, we understand your weakness.
Oh god. Please just kill yourself. Literally would probably be the best option at this point.
I only date latiño men. As a guy I look at porn constantly like any other guy, I know how to spell.
Like honestly you're around people who you obviously aren't sure if they can spell correctly. Check my polls. I've spelled it in several polls.
You don't understand art, politics, science, or etc. You're useless here.
Rota ... hint ... you have lost all credibility when you stoop to attempt to discredit by state. Just quietly slither into the shadows to lick your wounds ...
Actually look at my parody account at the bottom of these comments. The Mbachmann account. You're an idiot. You discriminate against all types of people, you don't understand anything beneficial to society.
Please kill yourself and your children because you'd do society a huge favor. You alone are the reason we're ranked so low in education. No one can literally be that stupid.
Also no one but you says I lost credibility. You're a no body and using "we" as if you're talking with someone. You're no body.
If you killed yourself? Who would know? Nobody. Who would care? Nobody.
Rota ... really, you think you're credible because your a porn watching artsy gay?
You are just so funny!
Yes we all know you're a bigot. You're constantly hating on groups of people on here and you're literally no body. I've already proven you wrong by another comment I've wrote in this poll alone.
Rita: you must have a really sad life to just be going around insulting people for no reason.
Anééways. You're a hater. Always have been. You thought you out smarted me by use of spelling but my comment below in the poll on my satirical account kind of fucked you over. Heh.
Speaking of sad, you seriously thought I couldn't spell latino. Who can't spell in 2014 except for republicans?
Literally scroll down a little bit form this last post. Just a little bitty bit and look at my MBachmann account. "Tan skin and black hair = Mexicans and Latinos dumb liberal."
Like you're really that dumb.
Also yes my weakness is stupid people. Can't stand them, still can't, never will. They're useless in my opinion.
this has been very entertaining. rota just take your lumps and move on.
Speaking of stupid, it's RebelFury. The other bigot.
Hey holy shit look guys. I DID mis spell Ecuadorean! Now you can go look at that and bask you managed to catch me slip up somewhere. Don't do it when you're a retard who can't appreciate slanguage. Thank you :)
And yes I do apologize for the kill your self comment as it was a bit far fetched, but I only did it because of all of your bigotry you've shit out of your mouth in so many places here.
Rota ... you're so pathetic ... the only person who's made any disparaging comments is use. If anyone is a bigot, it's you.
It's clear that you're unable to just take your lumps like a big boy/girl. It's ok, you've provided comic relief this morn.
Rota. You sure get verbose when called out! I'm sure we all would love to see your poll and any other sites and sources. Of course there may not be enough space or time or interest..
hahahahahahahahahahahaha "bigot?" Back that up with ONE quote. Give me ONE damn quote you 15 yr old piece of shit.
The very sad part is with republicans you can never tell if they're trolling or just illiterate/stupid. Dlawren who are you?
Like literally proved my Mbachmann account and showed my posts below before this one existed. However like I said you can never know if republicans are stupid or trolling. Likely it's stupidity because most barely know what the Internet is but still.
so we've established your "bigot" claim is, like you, full of shit. You're also proving your lack of intelligence by continuing to refer to me as a republican. Maybe take a break, take a poli sci class at high school, and come back when you grow up
Apparently the only classes they offer at his school are about how to be a pompous ass-wipe.
Speaking about political science coming from the confederate?
Rota ... the trouble with leftists like you is that you confuse intellectualism with wisdom. You also think you've got the exclusive on knowledge.
You and MrO may be smart, but neither have common sense, nor a clue of how to lead.
not unless you're willing to deal with the police state even more, which sadly some of you would
Violating American citizen's civil rights? TotAlly doable. If those who don't respect & honor our sovereignty get their panties in a wad... oh well.
I don't get the question. What civil rights? If you're not an American you don't have American rights.
^^^ this ^^^
think about it a little more you two
... Please be joking.
If you come to this country illegally you have the right to leave without delay. If you overstay your visa, you have the right to leave immediately. Period.
@Think, for the win!
@rebel What is there to think about? I can't go to any other country and get free schooling, healthcare or any other public service. Why should the USA be different?
and you think it can be enforced without violating the rights of americans?
@rebel Please explain to me how not giving rights to non Americans harm The rights of Americans. If you want to become an American there's a process. We don't want criminals and diseased from other countries. We have enough problems as is.
diseased and criminals.....what about people just trying to escape war, corruption, and poverty
@rebel I'll hate to be the douchebag to say it, but that's not our problem. When the U.S. fought for its independence, did China, Mexico or any Central American country help? Not to my knowledge.
can you trace your heritage to the mayflower? and god help me if you pull out the "they did it legally" card. please, dont make me embarass you.
These republicans commenting here are the guys on the news holding mis spelled protest signs and only have 3 teeth in their head.
Indians also migrated to America. All life started in Africa and people travelled to other countries. They didn't need any form of documentation to leave. America use to be nobodies land. Just saying.
that doesn't answer the question
Nothing is ever completely possible. Even a large wall can be scaled, blown up, dug under, or flown over. I believe that our regulations and enforcement need to be much tougher. However, we don't need to become East Berlin to make it happen.
Not doing it violates my rights. Let's worry about us first. The country stands by its boarders. Send them back.