I have too much of my own sin to worry about what other people do in their lives. And no, I don't find it offensive, as long as it is applied to all sin.
This phrase is a way for religious folks to justify their bigotry towards people and make themselves feel better about it. If they keep telling themselves they "love" everyone then they're good holy people. It's pathetic and moronic.
Personally, I don't think that having an opinion constitutes bigotry. If someone loves everyone, including homosexuals, they will not be rude or judge. However, they do have the right to their opinion just as much as you do.
No, from a (fundamentalist) Christian PoV, it must feel pretty much like a parent feels when their teenage child is doing hard drugs. The parent knows he's on the road to destruction and hates what he does but still loves the child.
Why bother hating the sin? What someone else does should be none of your business. Hating the sin is just a roundabout way of hating the person, most likely because they don't punish themselves the way you do.
It is possible to love someone but not love what they have done. The compassionate stance toward someone who has suffered because of their poor choices or caused the suffering of others is sorrow and a desire for that person to change and be healed.
Some people need to be told what to do. If you are doing evil, it is no longer all about you. Actions have consequences that can hurt far beyond the individual. Everybody so busy being politically correct, nobody says right from wrong anymore.
It's not offensive but I actually preferred (NOT agreed with) the blunt retort of somebody from the religious right when I said this. He replied: Who goes to hell, the sin or the sinner?
Not to me and I'd definitely be considered one helluva sinner by anyone that's religious. But I don't require, or base my self worth on, the approval of others either.
We don't have to ever let him out among decent people again either, if his, that's HIS crime was serious enough to warrant it. the criminal chose to do the crime, the crime didn't itself had nothing to do with it.
Yeah, but you get what i'm saying. Maybe a non-crime example would have been better. Take a WBC protestor, for example. You don't like him one bit, but you'd probably be very gentleman like in a face-to-face conversation, at least I'd hope you would.
I would not feel any obligation to be polite to any WBC protesters. They are lower than vermin, using a made-up "church" as an excuse to be buttheads and worse.
This is how I've always grokked it. Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of people who wield this statement in order to condemn others, and it now makes me feel uncomfortable to defend its meaning. :(
No other 'sin' is so constantly used to label someone a 'sinner'. This philosophy would be fine if it weren't targeted solely at labeling homosexuals as sinners, and not for an action, but for an aspect of their being.
It is because no other SIN or sinner holds PARADES to take PRIDE in the SIN which consumes them. There are no pride parades for fabricators, pedophiles, adulterers or pornography addicts. Just homosexuals.
that's just your inference. its a general statement that I have heard in many different contexts (I am a catholic). I have rarely heard it applied to homosexuals. I have more often heard it with people like ISIS and in things like capital punishment
I don't think anyone that actually says it quotes the bible, though they do tend to claim its a summary of what the bible teaches on the matter. If I may ask, are you saying hate the sinner?
No. I want the homosexual community to understand that WE ALL deal with SIN. Not just them. We love them because we all have a SIN problem however, we are not going to embrace their SIN any more than we would embrace our own SIN.
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