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Penn555 October 21st, 2014 11:28pm

(For a college research paper, so please forward!) Do you believe this government is still "of the people, by the people, for the people" like Lincoln said in the Gettysburg Address?

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Penn555 Maine
10/21/14 7:15 pm

Thanks for voting, everyone! I didn't realize there was a vote cap (oops), but this should help a lot! :)

alynn Somewhere wonderful
10/21/14 7:52 pm

There is a vote cap of 100 votes if you are using the free version of the app. If you pay to upgrade, one of the benefits is a higher cap, at 500.

bnnt Los Angeles
10/21/14 6:06 pm

Large labor unions, lobbyist for lawyers, overzealous environmentalist, crooked banks, in-bed corps like Comcast and ATT. Oh and those crooks in Washington that work for them and manipulate ads so uninformed voters let them have their power.

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Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/21/14 5:32 pm

Nic: great poll question.
I hope you do great on the paper.

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MrLove lovers, dreamers and me
10/21/14 5:31 pm

Well, technically yes, since corporations are technically people.

brenstal Florida
10/21/14 5:25 pm

At least it's more so than in Lincoln's time, where women and people of color couldn't vote. We don't have a perfect system, but we never have.

ncbuc Get Over It
10/21/14 5:11 pm

Substitute "people" for "corporations".

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Spartacus AUSTIN
10/21/14 5:11 pm

Not even close. It's all about corporate money and screwing the American people out of their social security.

Spartacus AUSTIN
10/21/14 5:35 pm

I don't know if it can be fixed until the American people decide they have had enough and start firing and voting out their elected officials.

Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/21/14 5:38 pm

If corporations are the problem I would enact laws to encourage small business, competition & I would lessen the advantage of large international business.

Spartacus AUSTIN
10/21/14 5:41 pm

Well the problem is that out government is broken and one person can't make a difference.

Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/21/14 5:56 pm

All bloated bureaucracies are broken by definition.
Our liberties lie in smaller government & businesses.
I believe one good leader can make a difference.

Spartacus AUSTIN
10/21/14 6:06 pm

One good leader can't make a difference as long as we have a congress that does give a damn about the American people.

Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/21/14 6:10 pm

Spartacus: Congress not caring is a myth like the war on women.

A good leader wouldn't blame the other party for his inability to participate.
We desperately need a good leader.

Spartacus AUSTIN
10/21/14 9:13 pm

I'm sure you believe that Casper.

Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/22/14 5:36 pm

Spartacus: yes I do believe those myths are spin & diversions from real issues.

I also believe there are a lot of good people serving on both sides of the isle. They just are too far removed from our reality.

dxstap Bloomington, Indiana
10/21/14 5:09 pm

The idealistic part of me says yes but with the special interest groups on both sides what's right and best doesn't happen very much.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 5:05 pm

Yes, now that "people" has been redefined to mean "corporations".

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dxstap Bloomington, Indiana
10/21/14 5:12 pm

Hopefully this isn't new but the legality of corporations as separate entities with rights isn't new.
It's just that people are just now understanding what that means.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 5:54 pm

What is new is the expansion of the "rights" of corporations. As originally conceived, corporate personhood was a legal fiction intended to allow corporations to sue and be sued. Legislators have often failed to make the human/corporate distinction.

chickencookie It really is
10/21/14 4:58 pm

If you replace the word people with pen and phone it is.

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chickencookie It really is
10/21/14 4:59 pm

Where is that in Maine? We love it there.

Penn555 Maine
10/21/14 7:16 pm

I live in New Gloucester, but I go to college in South Portland. Born and raised here! :)

chickencookie It really is
10/21/14 8:53 pm

Beautiful state. Acadia is stunning.

golfer golfing
10/21/14 5:00 pm

So he didn't win the election?

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/21/14 5:10 pm

So he hasn't helped the people since he won.

golfer golfing
10/21/14 5:16 pm

So you say. Regardless, the fact that he was elected (and re-elected) by a majority of voters shows that he does represent "the people" and their interests.

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/21/14 5:20 pm

You can fool most of the people most of the time.

golfer golfing
10/21/14 6:52 pm

Still though, even if people are fooled, aren't they getting what they deserve/want?

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/21/14 9:57 pm

Deserve, I'm afraid. One look at his popularity polls shows he's not what they want anymore. I'm hoping they learn their lesson and rejecy Hillary in advance, not partway into her disastrous single term. :o)

cpaswr just say the letters
10/21/14 4:41 pm

Replace people with corporation and it is correct.

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cpaswr just say the letters
10/21/14 7:00 pm

I wish that I knew. Make companies disclose ALL political money spent on lobbying and campaign contributions. I'm just guessing. I doubt any real reform will happen.

Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/21/14 7:05 pm

Eliminate fraud, insider trading, bribery, conflicts of interest & other profiteering by politicians.
Eliminated deductions for political contributions.
Lower, flatter, simpler tax code with fewer special interest carve outs.

Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/21/14 7:06 pm

Shouldn't those be issues both parties could agree to pursue.

cpaswr just say the letters
10/21/14 7:22 pm

Likely. Maybe institute a 100% excise tax on all political donations for individuals with a net worth over $1M (including trusts) and corporations with a market cap over $1M.

Rotavele Alabama
10/21/14 4:40 pm

If it was, we'd be a communist country called the Democratic People's Republic of America. :P

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Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
10/21/14 5:30 pm

& be forced to do what they (our owners) say we must do.

They may even force us to buy crappy insurance & go to crappy schools.