Chaos Tuesday! Which would cause more global chaos if it happened tomorrow: ISIS releases a video showing them stealthy spraying Ebola virus in 50 major airports 48 hours ago, or North Korea drops a nuke on a city in South Korea?
World or South Korea, World or South Korea.. hmmm i do not know (sarcasm)
Both involve the world smart one. A world war will start if the north drops the nuke
Nah I feel like the US will just nuke the north out of existence.
Spraying Ebola will do no harm
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Please tell me that's sarcasm
I dunno, we don't really care about anything until it actually effects us
A nuke being dropped could possibly lead to another then bye bye world.
It could be fake, but the media would go batshit crazy, whoever is X president would do something wrong (according to the opposing party) Congress will go on permanent vacation, the public will be in utter chaos. maybe like the movies? maybe not
Ebola, for sure. That would endanger the entire world, not just one nation.
U think a nuke wouldn't do the same?
There is literally nothing North Korea could do after the their first attack.
What about their allies?
China and Russia
Damn this poll is deep bro
It's a question of panic versus vaporization. The Ebola would scare people. The nuke would kill Seoul and touch off a regional, almost certainly nuclear war.
Nuclear wars are more chaotic over the long term.
But North Korea would lose that war within hours of dropping that first bomb
But Ebola can't spread through the air effectively. Plus nuclear fall out lasts waaaaay longer than panic over a disease.
It's not just panic though. Ebola would be at major airports where people travel all over the world
Ebola dies out too fast to be effectively weaponized.
New strains of Ebola could develop. And it only takes 5 seconds to infect someone with Ebola. Imagine a major airport where people go all around the world.
"New strains of Ebola could develop. And it only takes 5 seconds to infect someone with Ebola."
Ebola can't go airborne. It takes literally forever to infect someone with a dead Ebola virus.
Not if the person is alive. Then it doesn't have to be airborne bcuz it's on the person and it won't take that long to infect someone else
It has to be airborne to survive the spray bottle dispersal. You are talking about a terrorist attack on the scale of the Times Square firework bomber, versus the nuclear bombing of a modern metropolis.
There is no comparison.
The ebola chaos would likely be short lived. The nuke chaos would last years, or decades. The world lives with the reassurance that nukes have only been used twice. Bringing in that fear to the globe again would cause deep, lasting chaos.
North Korea has a weak arsenal and surely no one is crazy enough to side with them if they did it, but yeah, they'd probably do more damage than the Ebola.
Scientifically speaking, it would be difficult to just "spray" Ebola. It's a virus that needs a host. It can't just be liquified and sprayed. I don't think they'd have the tech to create a way for it to replicate and live enough to do that to us.
Ebola, N. Korea would be dealt with before Kim Jong Un could give himself a pat on the back
Hmm mass killing of Americans or mass killings of Koreans? Whoever voted for the nuke is an idiot.
I disagree. We'd see the entire region around the Korean Peninsula de-stabilize. War with China would not be impossible.
Meanwhile, I wouldn't expect ISIS to develop an effective delivery system for Ebola. This is a question of panic versus nukes.
China would be the first to invade NK. They have already expressed severe displeasure with NK for destabilizing the region and threatening the lucrative American trade.
There are a lot of Americans in Korea
There r more Americans in America though
This is from October, what the hell.
Lol that's what I said when I saw it
... Which October?!
I'll hope it's from 2014. I joined in 2011 though so you never know lol
We all know when North Korea finally does drop a nuke in South Korea it's gonna land with a "dink" and fall apart.
D I N K. Why the fuck is that word censored.
haha, when u was reading this at first I was like, "land with a di ck? what the f is this guy talking about" lol
I love how they made it into a worse word by censoring it.
Well, you know... Missiles, phallic symbols, crazy North Koreans... It could happen.
Well, there is the fact that North Korea's missile is called the "Taepodong"...
That made my day
Look at how people are overreacting to a case or two of Ebola in the US. The nuke would objectively be a bigger deal, but I think the Ebola scare would cause more chaos.
The latter could cause a war between China and the United States. I'm pretty sure that that would be a massive deal.
You really think China is going to give up the trillions of dollars we owe them? Are you crazy?
China and the US are political rivals, but they're major trade partners.
Exactly. If China decided to go to war, it would hurt them as much, if not more, than us.
The Nuke, only because I see it directly effecting me more.
Well, getting involved in a land war in Asia IS the most famous of the classic blunders...
Clearly you have a dizzying intellect.
The only reason they haven't sprayed radioactive dust into water supply is because they don't have it (yet).
Treatment between reservoir and tap may save people, but the animals will pick it up. Now remember that the initial transmission into humans was via "jungle meat": people eating the equivalent of African road kill.
Not entire sure how that works, but most countries have better food standards than West African ones.
The last thing Russia and China need is Ebola getting in to their country. Second to that, a punk-ass little-dicktater with freaky hair trying to be badass.
An Ebola outbreak in the US will enter China via the cargo ships. To Russia, via air travel of friends going thru JFK airport.
How would you know that what the IS was spraying is actually Ebola, and not something else, like febreeze...??
Plus it would be biological terrorist suicide. They don't have the means to protect themselves adequately...
As if suicide stops ISIS nutjobbers? Hellllooooo!!!!
If we were [still] into the biological warfare thing (natives), we would've sent them Ebola by now..
And suicide of a few vs mass outbreak that if if rica can't contain it, what makes you think the IS can??
Ebola is only spread through contact with bodily fluids. Would anyone even contract it in that scenario?
The spray ~could~ act as the moist medium required...depending on what it is made of. But it would have to be sprayed close enough to people for it to enter the bloodstream before drying out and dying...I would say that it would be very difficult.
But the question was about chaos. People would flip out. Sick or not, there would be extreme chaos. using the word Ebola, and showing it spread around in that manner, whether efficient or not, would cause more insanity in the masses than a nuke.
American masses, mind you...unfortunately, as a whole, Americans are very selfish and lack empathy towards the suffering of others...most do not even know the difference between N.K. and S.K. So, even though I would be more concerned with the nuke...
The WHO says that Ebola can survive in standing water for days.
The WHO has been wrong several times before. Also, without the assistance of cells a virus cannot replicate. So you would have to have a very foul sprayer to hold enough of the virus to pose an issue. It is not as easy as people think to get infected
The only reason it is spreading so badly overseas is because of the hygiene. The lack of available water to wash, as well as their rituals concerning the deceased, has led to it being so terribly widespread. Spritzing with water is bad if you get it
near enough to an orifice or other entrance to your bloodstream for the virus to move in before you wash. if you at all follow simple hygienic steps you can be very safe, unless the person spraying was spraying in faces...which would not happen.
Ebola, because Americans have shown they can't handle their shit when it comes to even a whisper about ebola.
Nuking Korea would obviously be a MUCH bigger deal though.
The tin foil hat gang is going to kill our planet one day. Ebulu may be the cause of it.
We're close to curing Ebola so that would be easily dealt with. A nuke on South Korea will trigger a nuclear response from the United States. Then possibly retaliation from China. The power grid will fall apart.
I don't think Ebola can be spread through the air. A nuke could easily escalate into global war with possibly more nukes to come & potentially millions of deaths. Nuke
Ebola in major airports is a global threat. A nuke dropped in one country is easy to recover from. Japan was nuked twice and they have one of the top five economies.
Unlike Japan, in this case it's the start of a war, not the end of one. It probably wouldn't be the last nuke dropped, and who knows how widespread the war might become.
Yes, but the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were only part of a conflict that affected nearly every continent on the planet and killed 2.5% of the world's population.
You don't think an equally large conflict could result?
The nukes would probably be a greater problem, but ISIS and Ebola are two of the main media focuses. If you combined them, everyone would probably go insane.
Sadly, it would probably be the Ebola
But MSNBC told me that Ebola is not that infectious and Communism is ok( it is for the children).
They didn't say that they would drop communism on the airport though
Isis doesn't have those capabilities
When you consider that ISIS's creation was largely influenced+supported by the CIA several years ago, one would assume it wouldn't be too hard for them to acquire those abilities.
/ISIS=formed/created by the CIA, just like 90% of terrorists we fight
Are you saying the CIA is the root of all evil?
Pretty much lol
No, there are roots deeper than the CIA that are responsible for the evils the CIA has committed, e.g. drug trafficking, arming terrorist groups, arming drug cartels, etc.
But yes I am saying the CIA have caused many evils behind the scenes.
E,.G. Read list once again- Arming terrorists (Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc), arming drug cartels (Operation Fast&Furious), drug trafficking (stated by mexican officials, even DEA officials, along with strong supporting evidence), etc.
Ebola is not an airborne virus. For the spray to work at all you would need to get sprayed right in the mouth, eyes, nose, or open wound, or would need to lick it up before it dried. It just isn't a thing. The nuke would be a problem though.
I agree Ebola is not airborne, and not as bad as people think, but in a major airport it would be a problem. People drop things on the ground and stuff. You sound like those people that don't wash their hands and wonder why they're sick...
The opposite. Given the filthy nature of places like airports, I expect people to be more aware of the risk of contamination, to not rub their eyes, to clean their hands before eating, etc. The five second rule does not apply in airports.
It's not airborne, but it is highly infections. A single drop of body fluid is enough to infect you and we have tiny cuts throughout our body that we don't even notice. If someone grabbed a door handle sprayed with ebola and it so happens that he has
Cut on his hand, the virus would transfer. It's like you don't know how viruses or bacteria spread throughout a population.
What Ikillgiants said
So it's a magic aerosol that stays wet forever, or magic ebola that stays viable when dry. If they have that kind of magic at their disposal, I could save them a lot of trouble.
It can remain on a surface for hours if the conditions are right. Why do you think they disinfect every surface that the victims have come in contact with?
Yes it can, but it is a big if. And IF that were a significant risk we WOULD have seen it spread more widely by now, such as within families. More data available courtesy of Canada, eh:
I know the whole question is a hypothetical, but it borders on being as ridiculous a scenario as a zombie outbreak.
Since Ebola can't spread through the air, I'll go with the Korean nuke.
Too bad out fellow countrymen are too fucking retarded to understand that viruses don't mystically change their mode of transport just because the media talks about them.
*stealthily* spraying. Stealthy is an adjective.
How about "stealthy spraying", as a trademarked technique? I can see that catching on :-)
Let's hurry and get the website reserved!
Ebola. Although any pathogen will take longer to kill, the effects will be much greater than a nuke.
But why? Because you can't spread radiation from one person to another.
In addition, if ISIS and NK did that I believe that every ally...
...will act against these sadistic animals!
"Fight fire with fire" - Eugene.
Ebola can and will be treated if signs of a REAL serious outbreak occur. The global political and economic ramifications of a nuclear weapon are not so easily dealt with
Just like there is a cure for HIV!! Right?!
Um no. There are four versions of an unfunded vaccine... There is no market for it right now. And HIV is a completely different severity than Ebola the amount of people who died in Africa of HIV compared to Ebola is much more. sit down paranoid Pete.
Ebola, but that depends on response/detection time if it could become an epidemic. If N. Korea drops a nuke, we know the response would be swift. They are history.
Either would command world stage.
Ebola brings new meaning to a suicide bomber.
China would take down N Korea and annex it. That's the real force holding N Korea back from attacking SK right now. China doesn't want us in its back yard.
Global Ebola would be the bigger problem.
The problems will not stop after North Korea is annexed. Any war in history can tell us that
Yeah, but it will be China's problem.
They'll execute the NK administration in the street and take over daily operations.
The average starving and brainwashed NK citizen will adapt to the new regime easily because they've been trained to be passive.
As long as we stay out of it, the whole thing would be over in a weekend.
You know we won't stay out of it. And Russia and whoevers involved in South Korea will put their two cents in as well
You're right. It would be too tempting of a political football for DC not to pick it up.
Why are you giving them the idea?
ISIS and Ebola.
People are crazy enough about Ebola as it is.
the nuke, they could be spraying FaBreeze for all you know, don't trust anything ISIS wants you to believe.
And through it all Obama would b caught by surprise, unclear on what to do, play golf, go fundraise, blame it on bush, give a bunch of govt $ to his buddies, appoint a czar that is his former friend, have a party at White House, hang out with jay z
Sean, Glenn, Bill?
God it would be so sweet if we got in to a nuclear battle with North Korea
How would that be sweet? The hell is wrong with you?
So we can finally show the world the real power of our military. Nobody would mess with us after that
Really? Because we dropped two atomic bombs on japan but that hasn't stopped people from messing with us... You must be 12.
That was just two atomic bombs. Just imagine if we wiped out their entire country with nuclear missiles fired thousands of miles away.
We would show the world just how badass we really are
Yeah. Millions and millions of deaths just to prove a point...not to mention probably wiping out a good amount of surrounding countries and possibly starting a global war.
Beginning to think kittles is either retarded or a troll...
Everybody hates North Korea. It wouldn't start a global war if we wiped them out. And we wouldn't mess with any other surrounding countries. Just them
Troll I think. Do you not know how nuclear bombs work?
Not really. I'm not a scientist
How old are you?
I'm 30. How old are you?
It depends. Did Samsung survive the nuke?
I'm goin' with "Nuke". If ISIS spread Ebola around the U.S., the only real chaos is gonna be the American reaction. The prevailing opinion of the global community, and unfortunately even some Americans, will be that we're 'getting what we deserve'.
Except some people in airports tend to fly to other countries. That makes it global.
Except it's not only targeting Americans. It's in American airports- so it will most likely affect MANY more countries as well. A Chinese man visiting America? He's bringing it back to China. A couple going on vacation in Jamaica? Same.
Except it says 50 major airports. Nothing about only in the US. So it will already be global.
Ahh very true run, Reeze, Willy... If other countries around the globe, however, knew about this bio-attack, I wonder how many of them would ban flights coming FROM this Country, into THEIRS.
Extremely tough call on this one.
you mean north Korea's firecracker nukes? jk the only reason I chose it is because it would start a world war with millions of casualties all over the world