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Show Of Hands October 21st, 2014 10:13am

Chaos Tuesday! Which would cause more global chaos if it happened tomorrow: ISIS releases a video showing them stealthy spraying Ebola virus in 50 major airports 48 hours ago, or North Korea drops a nuke on a city in South Korea?

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Independent101 Be For America
10/25/14 9:15 pm

World or South Korea, World or South Korea.. hmmm i do not know (sarcasm)

delta3204 CA
08/05/15 5:14 pm

Both involve the world smart one. A world war will start if the north drops the nuke

Independent101 Be For America
08/05/15 5:42 pm

Nah I feel like the US will just nuke the north out of existence.

litdif
10/24/14 4:59 pm

Spraying Ebola will do no harm

delta3204 CA
07/25/15 9:09 am

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Please tell me that's sarcasm

kazz
10/23/14 9:46 pm

I dunno, we don't really care about anything until it actually effects us

NikkiKitti47
10/23/14 4:23 pm

A nuke being dropped could possibly lead to another then bye bye world.

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ladyniner81 I hate people
10/22/14 8:44 pm

It could be fake, but the media would go batshit crazy, whoever is X president would do something wrong (according to the opposing party) Congress will go on permanent vacation, the public will be in utter chaos. maybe like the movies? maybe not

Ivyra Earth
10/22/14 6:46 pm

Ebola, for sure. That would endanger the entire world, not just one nation.

delta3204 CA
07/25/15 9:10 am

U think a nuke wouldn't do the same?

johndoh1000
10/22/14 12:52 pm

There is literally nothing North Korea could do after the their first attack.

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delta3204 CA
08/05/15 5:15 pm

What about their allies?

SStauffer5745 Maryland
10/22/14 12:17 pm

Damn this poll is deep bro

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/21/14 11:00 pm

It's a question of panic versus vaporization. The Ebola would scare people. The nuke would kill Seoul and touch off a regional, almost certainly nuclear war.

Nuclear wars are more chaotic over the long term.

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dfish at home
10/22/14 2:51 pm

But North Korea would lose that war within hours of dropping that first bomb

orionpsg1 Arkansas
10/22/14 11:31 pm

But Ebola can't spread through the air effectively. Plus nuclear fall out lasts waaaaay longer than panic over a disease.

delta3204 CA
08/05/15 5:16 pm

It's not just panic though. Ebola would be at major airports where people travel all over the world

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/05/15 6:05 pm

Ebola dies out too fast to be effectively weaponized.

delta3204 CA
08/05/15 6:22 pm

New strains of Ebola could develop. And it only takes 5 seconds to infect someone with Ebola. Imagine a major airport where people go all around the world.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/05/15 6:24 pm

"New strains of Ebola could develop. And it only takes 5 seconds to infect someone with Ebola."

Ebola can't go airborne. It takes literally forever to infect someone with a dead Ebola virus.

delta3204 CA
08/05/15 6:27 pm

Not if the person is alive. Then it doesn't have to be airborne bcuz it's on the person and it won't take that long to infect someone else

Doopy Remedial Americanism
08/05/15 6:49 pm

It has to be airborne to survive the spray bottle dispersal. You are talking about a terrorist attack on the scale of the Times Square firework bomber, versus the nuclear bombing of a modern metropolis.

There is no comparison.

Patimen California
10/21/14 7:48 pm

The ebola chaos would likely be short lived. The nuke chaos would last years, or decades. The world lives with the reassurance that nukes have only been used twice. Bringing in that fear to the globe again would cause deep, lasting chaos.

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manwithnoplan
10/24/14 2:20 pm

North Korea has a weak arsenal and surely no one is crazy enough to side with them if they did it, but yeah, they'd probably do more damage than the Ebola.

galvduck Galveston Island
10/21/14 7:16 pm

Scientifically speaking, it would be difficult to just "spray" Ebola. It's a virus that needs a host. It can't just be liquified and sprayed. I don't think they'd have the tech to create a way for it to replicate and live enough to do that to us.

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HAIL2THESKINS
10/21/14 7:01 pm

Ebola, N. Korea would be dealt with before Kim Jong Un could give himself a pat on the back

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alkie New York
10/21/14 6:55 pm

Hmm mass killing of Americans or mass killings of Koreans? Whoever voted for the nuke is an idiot.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/21/14 10:54 pm

I disagree. We'd see the entire region around the Korean Peninsula de-stabilize. War with China would not be impossible.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't expect ISIS to develop an effective delivery system for Ebola. This is a question of panic versus nukes.

MericaRules
10/22/14 12:05 am

China would be the first to invade NK. They have already expressed severe displeasure with NK for destabilizing the region and threatening the lucrative American trade.

saliemster California
10/22/14 7:11 am

There are a lot of Americans in Korea

delta3204 CA
07/25/15 9:13 am

There r more Americans in America though

saliemster California
07/25/15 6:36 pm

This is from October, what the hell.

alkie New York
07/25/15 6:41 pm

Lol that's what I said when I saw it

alkie New York
07/25/15 7:25 pm

I'll hope it's from 2014. I joined in 2011 though so you never know lol

lagg
10/21/14 6:36 pm

We all know when North Korea finally does drop a nuke in South Korea it's gonna land with a "dink" and fall apart.

lagg
10/21/14 6:37 pm

D I N K. Why the fuck is that word censored.

HAIL2THESKINS
10/21/14 7:02 pm

haha, when u was reading this at first I was like, "land with a di ck? what the f is this guy talking about" lol

DuckAndCower
10/21/14 7:13 pm

I love how they made it into a worse word by censoring it.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/21/14 10:55 pm

Well, you know... Missiles, phallic symbols, crazy North Koreans... It could happen.

DuckAndCower
10/21/14 11:07 pm

Well, there is the fact that North Korea's missile is called the "Taepodong"...

rampantTom
10/22/14 7:32 pm

That made my day

DuckAndCower
10/21/14 3:01 pm

Look at how people are overreacting to a case or two of Ebola in the US. The nuke would objectively be a bigger deal, but I think the Ebola scare would cause more chaos.

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gamerguy217
10/21/14 2:24 pm

The latter could cause a war between China and the United States. I'm pretty sure that that would be a massive deal.

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swervin Maryland
10/22/14 4:12 am

You really think China is going to give up the trillions of dollars we owe them? Are you crazy?

manwithnoplan
10/24/14 2:23 pm

China and the US are political rivals, but they're major trade partners.

swervin Maryland
10/24/14 2:50 pm

Exactly. If China decided to go to war, it would hurt them as much, if not more, than us.

BrittneyBunny Maryland
10/21/14 1:15 pm

The Nuke, only because I see it directly effecting me more.

angstanon San Diego, CA
10/21/14 1:12 pm

Well, getting involved in a land war in Asia IS the most famous of the classic blunders...

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10o5t126 ...
10/21/14 1:20 pm

Clearly you have a dizzying intellect.

theNobamist Silicon Valley
10/21/14 12:48 pm

The only reason they haven't sprayed radioactive dust into water supply is because they don't have it (yet).

theNobamist Silicon Valley
10/21/14 12:47 pm

Treatment between reservoir and tap may save people, but the animals will pick it up. Now remember that the initial transmission into humans was via "jungle meat": people eating the equivalent of African road kill.

manwithnoplan
10/24/14 2:26 pm

Not entire sure how that works, but most countries have better food standards than West African ones.

theNobamist Silicon Valley
10/21/14 12:41 pm

The last thing Russia and China need is Ebola getting in to their country. Second to that, a punk-ass little-dicktater with freaky hair trying to be badass.

theNobamist Silicon Valley
10/21/14 12:43 pm

An Ebola outbreak in the US will enter China via the cargo ships. To Russia, via air travel of friends going thru JFK airport.

JHawk3205 MD
10/21/14 12:24 pm

How would you know that what the IS was spraying is actually Ebola, and not something else, like febreeze...??

JHawk3205 MD
10/21/14 12:26 pm

Plus it would be biological terrorist suicide. They don't have the means to protect themselves adequately...

theNobamist Silicon Valley
10/21/14 12:44 pm

As if suicide stops ISIS nutjobbers? Hellllooooo!!!!

JHawk3205 MD
10/22/14 1:41 pm

If we were [still] into the biological warfare thing (natives), we would've sent them Ebola by now..

JHawk3205 MD
10/22/14 1:42 pm

And suicide of a few vs mass outbreak that if if rica can't contain it, what makes you think the IS can??

R3dzombi3 Space, probably
10/21/14 12:00 pm

Ebola is only spread through contact with bodily fluids. Would anyone even contract it in that scenario?

dajafa Everywhere
10/21/14 12:06 pm

The spray ~could~ act as the moist medium required...depending on what it is made of. But it would have to be sprayed close enough to people for it to enter the bloodstream before drying out and dying...I would say that it would be very difficult.

dajafa Everywhere
10/21/14 12:10 pm

But the question was about chaos. People would flip out. Sick or not, there would be extreme chaos. using the word Ebola, and showing it spread around in that manner, whether efficient or not, would cause more insanity in the masses than a nuke.

dajafa Everywhere
10/21/14 12:13 pm

American masses, mind you...unfortunately, as a whole, Americans are very selfish and lack empathy towards the suffering of others...most do not even know the difference between N.K. and S.K. So, even though I would be more concerned with the nuke...

theNobamist Silicon Valley
10/21/14 12:45 pm

The WHO says that Ebola can survive in standing water for days.

dajafa Everywhere
10/21/14 2:35 pm

The WHO has been wrong several times before. Also, without the assistance of cells a virus cannot replicate. So you would have to have a very foul sprayer to hold enough of the virus to pose an issue. It is not as easy as people think to get infected

dajafa Everywhere
10/21/14 2:38 pm

The only reason it is spreading so badly overseas is because of the hygiene. The lack of available water to wash, as well as their rituals concerning the deceased, has led to it being so terribly widespread. Spritzing with water is bad if you get it

dajafa Everywhere
10/21/14 2:42 pm

near enough to an orifice or other entrance to your bloodstream for the virus to move in before you wash. if you at all follow simple hygienic steps you can be very safe, unless the person spraying was spraying in faces...which would not happen.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 11:55 am

Ebola, because Americans have shown they can't handle their shit when it comes to even a whisper about ebola.

Nuking Korea would obviously be a MUCH bigger deal though.

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Rotavele Alabama
10/21/14 9:11 pm

The tin foil hat gang is going to kill our planet one day. Ebulu may be the cause of it.

Rotavele Alabama
10/21/14 11:25 am

We're close to curing Ebola so that would be easily dealt with. A nuke on South Korea will trigger a nuclear response from the United States. Then possibly retaliation from China. The power grid will fall apart.

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gjb2779
10/21/14 11:12 am

I don't think Ebola can be spread through the air. A nuke could easily escalate into global war with possibly more nukes to come & potentially millions of deaths. Nuke

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Br@ndon Your Soul
10/21/14 9:31 am

Ebola in major airports is a global threat. A nuke dropped in one country is easy to recover from. Japan was nuked twice and they have one of the top five economies.

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Injectable Trump Killed Babbitt
10/21/14 11:06 am

Unlike Japan, in this case it's the start of a war, not the end of one. It probably wouldn't be the last nuke dropped, and who knows how widespread the war might become.

angstanon San Diego, CA
10/21/14 1:15 pm

Yes, but the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were only part of a conflict that affected nearly every continent on the planet and killed 2.5% of the world's population.

Injectable Trump Killed Babbitt
10/21/14 2:40 pm

You don't think an equally large conflict could result?

WaynesWorld Phoenix, Arizona
10/21/14 9:29 am

The nukes would probably be a greater problem, but ISIS and Ebola are two of the main media focuses. If you combined them, everyone would probably go insane.

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TestMonkey
10/21/14 9:11 am

Sadly, it would probably be the Ebola

Jab95ad I, Fruit Loop
10/21/14 8:36 am

But MSNBC told me that Ebola is not that infectious and Communism is ok( it is for the children).

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sd123 San Diego
10/21/14 10:55 am

They didn't say that they would drop communism on the airport though

lmurder MDK
10/21/14 8:17 am

Isis doesn't have those capabilities

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LordAF
10/21/14 8:33 am

When you consider that ISIS's creation was largely influenced+supported by the CIA several years ago, one would assume it wouldn't be too hard for them to acquire those abilities.

/ISIS=formed/created by the CIA, just like 90% of terrorists we fight

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
10/21/14 9:40 am

Are you saying the CIA is the root of all evil?

LordAF
10/21/14 11:20 am

No, there are roots deeper than the CIA that are responsible for the evils the CIA has committed, e.g. drug trafficking, arming terrorist groups, arming drug cartels, etc.
But yes I am saying the CIA have caused many evils behind the scenes.

LordAF
10/21/14 11:30 am

E,.G. Read list once again- Arming terrorists (Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc), arming drug cartels (Operation Fast&Furious), drug trafficking (stated by mexican officials, even DEA officials, along with strong supporting evidence), etc.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 7:47 am

Ebola is not an airborne virus. For the spray to work at all you would need to get sprayed right in the mouth, eyes, nose, or open wound, or would need to lick it up before it dried. It just isn't a thing. The nuke would be a problem though.

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GOODLOOKING 37174
10/21/14 7:55 am

I agree Ebola is not airborne, and not as bad as people think, but in a major airport it would be a problem. People drop things on the ground and stuff. You sound like those people that don't wash their hands and wonder why they're sick...

Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 8:22 am

The opposite. Given the filthy nature of places like airports, I expect people to be more aware of the risk of contamination, to not rub their eyes, to clean their hands before eating, etc. The five second rule does not apply in airports.

Ikillgiants California
10/21/14 1:11 pm

It's not airborne, but it is highly infections. A single drop of body fluid is enough to infect you and we have tiny cuts throughout our body that we don't even notice. If someone grabbed a door handle sprayed with ebola and it so happens that he has

Ikillgiants California
10/21/14 1:13 pm

Cut on his hand, the virus would transfer. It's like you don't know how viruses or bacteria spread throughout a population.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 1:35 pm

So it's a magic aerosol that stays wet forever, or magic ebola that stays viable when dry. If they have that kind of magic at their disposal, I could save them a lot of trouble.

Ikillgiants California
10/21/14 1:38 pm

It can remain on a surface for hours if the conditions are right. Why do you think they disinfect every surface that the victims have come in contact with?

Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 1:47 pm

Yes it can, but it is a big if. And IF that were a significant risk we WOULD have seen it spread more widely by now, such as within families. More data available courtesy of Canada, eh:
www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 1:50 pm

I know the whole question is a hypothetical, but it borders on being as ridiculous a scenario as a zombie outbreak.

rbrown Kansas
10/21/14 7:42 am

Since Ebola can't spread through the air, I'll go with the Korean nuke.

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TheLastAmerican fairfax
10/21/14 7:43 am

Too bad out fellow countrymen are too fucking retarded to understand that viruses don't mystically change their mode of transport just because the media talks about them.

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/21/14 7:27 am

*stealthily* spraying. Stealthy is an adjective.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 7:50 am

How about "stealthy spraying", as a trademarked technique? I can see that catching on :-)

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/21/14 8:33 am

Let's hurry and get the website reserved!

CutCopy Wedding
10/21/14 7:12 am

Ebola. Although any pathogen will take longer to kill, the effects will be much greater than a nuke.

But why? Because you can't spread radiation from one person to another.

In addition, if ISIS and NK did that I believe that every ally...

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CutCopy Wedding
10/21/14 7:12 am

...will act against these sadistic animals!

CutCopy Wedding
10/21/14 7:13 am

"Fight fire with fire" - Eugene.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
10/21/14 7:02 am

Ebola can and will be treated if signs of a REAL serious outbreak occur. The global political and economic ramifications of a nuclear weapon are not so easily dealt with

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redsox95 New England
10/21/14 7:38 am

Just like there is a cure for HIV!! Right?!

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
10/21/14 7:56 am

Um no. There are four versions of an unfunded vaccine... There is no market for it right now. And HIV is a completely different severity than Ebola the amount of people who died in Africa of HIV compared to Ebola is much more. sit down paranoid Pete.

Spiritof76 USA 1776
10/21/14 6:37 am

Ebola, but that depends on response/detection time if it could become an epidemic. If N. Korea drops a nuke, we know the response would be swift. They are history.

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jvc1133 61535
10/21/14 6:30 am

Either would command world stage.

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dxstap Bloomington, Indiana
10/21/14 6:14 am

Ebola brings new meaning to a suicide bomber.

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MrMilkdud
10/21/14 6:05 am

China would take down N Korea and annex it. That's the real force holding N Korea back from attacking SK right now. China doesn't want us in its back yard.

Global Ebola would be the bigger problem.

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SonofMetal Heavy Metal
10/21/14 7:04 am

The problems will not stop after North Korea is annexed. Any war in history can tell us that

MrMilkdud
10/21/14 7:17 am

Yeah, but it will be China's problem.
They'll execute the NK administration in the street and take over daily operations.
The average starving and brainwashed NK citizen will adapt to the new regime easily because they've been trained to be passive.

MrMilkdud
10/21/14 7:19 am

As long as we stay out of it, the whole thing would be over in a weekend.

SonofMetal Heavy Metal
10/21/14 7:24 am

You know we won't stay out of it. And Russia and whoevers involved in South Korea will put their two cents in as well

MrMilkdud
10/21/14 7:35 am

You're right. It would be too tempting of a political football for DC not to pick it up.

nononono
10/21/14 5:57 am

Why are you giving them the idea?

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TimmysDad
10/21/14 5:22 am

People are crazy enough about Ebola as it is.

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Nos4at2 demented weirdo
10/21/14 5:20 am

the nuke, they could be spraying FaBreeze for all you know, don't trust anything ISIS wants you to believe.

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bogusbasin
10/21/14 5:13 am

And through it all Obama would b caught by surprise, unclear on what to do, play golf, go fundraise, blame it on bush, give a bunch of govt $ to his buddies, appoint a czar that is his former friend, have a party at White House, hang out with jay z

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ShineyLib Jeans
10/21/14 5:03 am

God it would be so sweet if we got in to a nuclear battle with North Korea

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Congressman Louisiana
10/21/14 5:38 am

How would that be sweet? The hell is wrong with you?

ShineyLib Jeans
10/21/14 5:41 am

So we can finally show the world the real power of our military. Nobody would mess with us after that

Congressman Louisiana
10/21/14 5:52 am

Really? Because we dropped two atomic bombs on japan but that hasn't stopped people from messing with us... You must be 12.

ShineyLib Jeans
10/21/14 6:01 am

That was just two atomic bombs. Just imagine if we wiped out their entire country with nuclear missiles fired thousands of miles away.
We would show the world just how badass we really are

dominiclandry
10/21/14 6:09 am

Yeah. Millions and millions of deaths just to prove a point...not to mention probably wiping out a good amount of surrounding countries and possibly starting a global war.

Congressman Louisiana
10/21/14 6:10 am

Beginning to think kittles is either retarded or a troll...

ShineyLib Jeans
10/21/14 6:14 am

Everybody hates North Korea. It wouldn't start a global war if we wiped them out. And we wouldn't mess with any other surrounding countries. Just them

dominiclandry
10/21/14 6:41 am

Troll I think. Do you not know how nuclear bombs work?

ShineyLib Jeans
10/21/14 6:44 am

Not really. I'm not a scientist

Congressman Louisiana
10/21/14 6:55 am

How old are you?

ShineyLib Jeans
10/21/14 6:59 am

I'm 30. How old are you?

Liberty 4,032,064
10/21/14 4:57 am

It depends. Did Samsung survive the nuke?

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gonzoboy Northern AZ
10/21/14 4:55 am

I'm goin' with "Nuke". If ISIS spread Ebola around the U.S., the only real chaos is gonna be the American reaction. The prevailing opinion of the global community, and unfortunately even some Americans, will be that we're 'getting what we deserve'.

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runschmoopie WNY
10/21/14 5:14 am

Except some people in airports tend to fly to other countries. That makes it global.

Reeze The TARDIS
10/21/14 5:16 am

Except it's not only targeting Americans. It's in American airports- so it will most likely affect MANY more countries as well. A Chinese man visiting America? He's bringing it back to China. A couple going on vacation in Jamaica? Same.

WillyWonka Everlasting Gobstopper
10/21/14 5:26 am

Except it says 50 major airports. Nothing about only in the US. So it will already be global.

Reeze The TARDIS
10/21/14 5:28 am

Good reading!

gonzoboy Northern AZ
10/21/14 5:30 am

Ahh very true run, Reeze, Willy... If other countries around the globe, however, knew about this bio-attack, I wonder how many of them would ban flights coming FROM this Country, into THEIRS.
Irony.

ElizabethL BOS . NC
10/21/14 4:54 am

Extremely tough call on this one.

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Rambo
10/21/14 4:45 am

you mean north Korea's firecracker nukes? jk the only reason I chose it is because it would start a world war with millions of casualties all over the world

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