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Show Of Hands October 21st, 2014 1:37am

Do you think the PG-13 rating guideline should be made more restrictive (allowing less violence and sex) than it currently is?

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kittylady86
06/08/15 2:09 am

There is even half naked women dancing on Disney channel... Its getting out of control.

AcesRedd California
10/26/14 2:34 am

Oh Alabama sometimes you know what's up, sometimes you're just like Lenny needing a George to deal with you.

NikkiKitti47
10/23/14 4:29 pm

Rating won't matter I know many parents that don't care what there child sees.

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
10/22/14 8:02 pm

You know what kills me? I may go see a horror movie, and I'll hear a kid crying! every single timeor once I heard one begging his dad to leave because he didn't like what was on the screen. why do people insist on taking their kids to horror movi

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
10/22/14 8:04 pm

movies? and don't give that bullshit about not being able to find a sitter. If you can't. Stay home. The movie will be there for a while or will be on DVD soon or On Demand. Why piss everyone else off? kid is crying because they're scared and

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
10/22/14 8:09 pm

you're ignoring them because you want to check your Facebook or the movie. Close your legs. Fucking assholes. I was furious. You ruined my movie. I almost think they should start carding people because of these inconsiderate idiots. But

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
10/22/14 8:10 pm

I barely go to the movies anymore because of the crap that Hollywood is spitting out so I could give a fly's fart

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
10/22/14 8:17 pm

carding people would be stupid. ranting makes me say stupid things

jenkp223 Being a mommy
10/22/14 5:01 pm

I don't know if ratings really make a difference. I'm a third grade teacher and my students routinely talk about the R-rated movies their parents let them see. Obviously, the rating didn't make a difference in those cases.

Shua01 Ohio
10/22/14 6:34 am

I watch some of the Movies that I watched as a kid (in the 80's) and their rating was way under-rated, but most of the things went over my head as a kid.

Br@ndon Your Soul
10/21/14 8:50 pm

Would it matter? Teens will still get their hands on rated mature content and parents wouldn't give two shits. I would know. I was once a teen.

HAIL2THESKINS
10/21/14 7:04 pm

IMO I think it's to restrictive right now

honeypot
10/21/14 11:14 am

Pg 13 gets naughtier as the years go on. Not against that, but it makes it hard to judge what's appropriate for my kids

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LordAF
10/21/14 11:09 am

I watched Terminator 2 when I was in 2nd grade, so I'm pretty sure a 13 year old can watch something like Transformers without being mentally scarred.
Btw I enjoyed T2 very much, it was a good movie :)

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genuflect University of Minnesota
10/21/14 10:45 am

Must. Resist. Censorship.

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ThePhlegm The Lone Star State
10/21/14 10:59 am

It's not censorship, it's a ratings system.

asdfghjkl24242 Los Angeles, CA
10/21/14 10:10 am

We are going to raise pussies if there's no violence in media

ThePhlegm The Lone Star State
10/21/14 8:27 am

Violence definitely! Sure, blow a guys head off is ok, but don't show that boob for too long.... Makes no sense to me.

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Shua01 Ohio
10/22/14 6:38 am

You must be European.

lmurder MDK
10/21/14 8:20 am

Watched transformers with my nephew the other day. Did they really have to say bitch? Why must we install sexism in our youth at a young age to degrade the opposit sex?

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goalie31 OrthodoxCatholicChristian
10/21/14 4:03 pm

A violent movie with bad words? Who'd a thunk

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/21/14 7:58 am

I'm for changing it to NC-5 for G, NC-10 for PG, NC-17 for PG-13, and NC-21 for R. The current NC-17 films would simply not be exhibited or distributed except to over-21 adults on a PPV subscription basis at home.

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teppofan Rt. 66 Hackberry, AZ
10/21/14 9:24 am

A voice of reason!

genuflect University of Minnesota
10/21/14 10:45 am

Voice of censorship.

goalie31 OrthodoxCatholicChristian
10/21/14 4:06 pm

At 18 I think it's okay for me to watch Saw, the Passion otc, the Matrix, 21 Jump street, Goon, Slap shot, etc.... And at 13 I think you can handle transformers, Harry Potter, hunger games, twilight, Star Wars, etc

TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
10/21/14 4:28 pm

Then we adjust the ratings for particular movies. I disagree about Saw - that's just sick. As are all of Rob Zombie's efforts. And at 63, I'M not even old enough to watch Scary Movie 1 or 2 or Bad Santa. Obscenity is obscenity.

spitfirejmw Alabama
10/21/14 6:57 am

Well considering that with the Internet kids and us can truly watch whatever we want online and in my opinion that kinda makes the MPAA irrelevant, have the studios just release with each film a parents guide and give it a suggested age for viewing

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nononono
10/21/14 5:58 am

There are some decent people still.

nononono
10/21/14 5:58 am

Let the sex go for the rated R!

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billiedog2
10/21/14 5:19 am

kids under 13 need more sex and violence?

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ColdSteel
10/24/14 3:20 pm

Yes

Lrenz indiana
10/21/14 5:06 am

It's up to the parents. This is a joke. Let the media posses children's minds.

singkitty In the cloud
10/21/14 4:46 am

The rating system is a joke. Ultimately it's up to the parents to do their research and know what their children are watching.

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joyfully
10/21/14 4:45 am

At first I picked yes, but after reading some of the comments I changed my answer to no, because a parent should be aware of the types of movies there kids watch. Also some kids are going to do what ever they want anyways.

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teppofan Rt. 66 Hackberry, AZ
10/21/14 9:28 am

However, some parents do depend on the rating to determine what they will watch as a family. How many parents have the time to prescreen every movie?

njalstorm
10/21/14 4:02 am

The sex. The crassness. The violence. The rudeness. Is over the top. We find that we are watching older movies on Netflix to get away from the crap out there now.

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Spiritof76 USA 1776
10/21/14 7:28 am

You must go back 50+ yrs for movies then.

genuflect University of Minnesota
10/21/14 10:46 am

Don't go back too far, you'll find an era of film which predates the censorship codes.

njalstorm
10/21/14 11:22 am

All I meant is it is over the top. I don't need to see the sex scene. In older movies it was a wink, a kiss, and then they shut the lights off. I love war movies. But you can capture the feeling / horror without brain matter everywhere.

rnm Illinois
10/21/14 3:02 am

There is no reason to change them. If a parent lets their 13 year old watch a movie with cursing and violence and they are appalled by it that is their problem.

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juliob
10/21/14 2:42 am

Who cares. There's something called the internet that kids watch everything on

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Liberty 4,032,064
10/21/14 2:19 am

The ratings are so stupid and arbitrary that nobody pays attention to them anyway, other than the theatres that don't let teens see R-rated movies by themselves.

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SugarShaq
10/21/14 2:01 am

I've seen a couple of R's that definitely weren't R!

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cowboy Here and There
10/21/14 1:25 am

I don't need the Government to rate movies for me.

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TheDoN Tricities, WA
10/20/14 11:55 pm

The MPAA is a flawed and horrible orginization and always was thus they should have no say on the ratings of movies. They don't even have actual standards on which they rate it is all unwritten and opinion based.

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MrChris80 California
10/20/14 10:47 pm

Doesnt matter. The MPAA is garbage.

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Spiritof76 USA 1776
10/20/14 10:33 pm

No. I was watching R-rated movies at age 11. I couldn't care less what criteria some bureaucratic agency uses to rate movies.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/20/14 9:00 pm

Less violence, yes, but we give way too many fucks about sex.

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JHawk3205 MD
10/20/14 10:02 pm

As much as I think that neither should be restricted, I respect your comment a lot. Cheers

dominiclandry
10/20/14 10:11 pm

Why is less violence but more sex ok? It's not like sex is something that should be taken for granted. It really doesn't harm anyone when it's taken seriously

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 7:21 am

Violence is inherently harmful. Sex isn't.

dominiclandry
10/21/14 9:33 am

I don't necessarily agree with all of that but I won't really argue it. Too much exposure to too much sex is bad though. I'm not saying we handle it the best we can but I'm saying it's not a bad thing when sex is held in a high regard

dominiclandry
10/21/14 9:34 am

and not plastered everywhere for everyone to see

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:04 am

I don't understand how you get from "sex is not censored" to "sex is not valued."

Money is also pretty consistently in our faces and around us, but I don't think anyone would argue that we fail to value money highly enough.

dominiclandry
10/21/14 10:16 am

Money and sex are incomparable. Not censoring sex more devalues it I think. It doesn't make it intimate or private.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:35 am

Do you have an articulable basis for the distinction you draw or is it a gut feeling?

JHawk3205 MD
10/21/14 12:32 pm

We obsess over sex the way we do because of people that constantly want it censored. I call this the forbidden fruit theory.. Free the nipple!!

dominiclandry
10/21/14 1:23 pm

Not really, Beth, I'm just talking about my opinion for discussion purposes. And JHawk, idk I think that we would obsess about it anyways, maybe more. I think we're wired that way

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 1:40 pm

Okay. I mean, you're certainly entitled to your opinion but you seemed to be purporting to refute mine, which doesn't make a lot of sense if you can't really give me a reason to change it.

dominiclandry
10/21/14 1:44 pm

I understand. I guess the issue is why sex was different in the 50s than it is now. It was probably fear. I agree that sex is beautiful but only so in the covenant of marriage. I think that in itself is beautiful and should be celebrated

JHawk3205 MD
10/22/14 1:44 pm

Maybe the fact that our traditionally Christian values force us to hide sex from ourselves, plus the "if it feels good, stop" doctrine, combined with our modern melting pot phenomenon, creates obsession

JHawk3205 MD
10/22/14 1:46 pm

We look at many other developed countries and they're miles ahead of us socially, etc. and they have way more openness about sexuality... We stick to our Puritan roots, plain and simple...

dominiclandry
10/22/14 2:02 pm

Christian values aren't to hide sex. The Christian representation thus far has done a poor job at actuating that

JHawk3205 MD
10/23/14 3:08 am

It's more about tradition I suppose. Traditionally, Christianity has a bad record with handling sexuality, and with it being such an influential religion, especially in politics, it's hard to argue..

dominiclandry
10/23/14 5:41 am

Right, a bad job has been done, but I'm saying that being free and super open and do whatever you want, with sex, is bad

JHawk3205 MD
10/23/14 1:57 pm

Fee and open, but responsible. As far as abortions go, even if congressional republicans do make abortions illegal, it's not gonna stop abortions; it'll just stop safe abortions..

dominiclandry
10/23/14 2:06 pm

Still think it's bad. And this has nothing to do with abortions

JHawk3205 MD
10/23/14 6:46 pm

The only problem that people have a stink about regarding sexuality is abortion and rape. I'd be willing to bet there's more rapes per capita in countries where sexuality is traditionally suppressed..

dominiclandry
10/23/14 7:21 pm

Correlation does not imply causation

JHawk3205 MD
10/23/14 7:48 pm

Correlation is better than evidence to the contrary... It's not the best because it's too difficult a dynamic to measure, much like gun related crime in the us, compared to other countries..

dominiclandry
10/23/14 8:06 pm

Those countries that suppress sex are probably also run by people like Isis. But this really isn't a conversation about abortion. Responsible sex to me is sex in marriage

JHawk3205 MD
10/24/14 4:12 pm

Marriage doesn't constitute responsibility. I don't think an establishment of joint taxes, and in the case of children, custody, means anything in regards to responsibility.

JHawk3205 MD
10/24/14 4:14 pm

Plus that's a very islamophobic way of looking at it. Plenty of Christian nations in Africa have problems with rape.. Suppressed sexuality is just as much a part of Christianity as it is Islam.

JHawk3205 MD
10/24/14 4:16 pm

Do you think a man cannot technically rape his own wife? Marriage has little effect on responsible sexual expression. If anything else, it actually limits it. Is it safe for me to assume that you're speaking of marriage in the traditional

JHawk3205 MD
10/24/14 4:18 pm

^ Christian context, as a sacrament and sacred bond, etc etc? I would warn you, friendly of course, that religion does not define ones morals, as ones actions define them

dominiclandry
10/24/14 6:59 pm

Well, although a true Christian marriage isn't perfect, I can promise you there would be no rape. And sexual suppression isn't a part of Christianity. I could see how it could seem that way but it's not

JHawk3205 MD
10/25/14 1:22 pm

Well, you're opinion is muddled by your bias, so sorry if I'm coming across as rude. You simply can't make a promise like that, and you can't just say Christianity doesn't suppress sexuality. It just does...

dominiclandry
10/25/14 1:34 pm

An opinion is biased by nature. You're biased too. What Christianity is supposed to be does not repress sex. It's just saved for marriage.

JHawk3205 MD
10/25/14 10:49 pm

How am I biased? I'm not showing any favors to one or the other.. And you can't deny that there's no clear definition of what Christianity is supposed to be, as nobody practices really any religion without interpretation.

JHawk3205 MD
10/25/14 10:52 pm

Religion can't even be followed literally because much or religious texts are written in symbolic contexts. Even of you could follow Christianity literally, nobody does. Christianity epitomizes cherry picking.

JHawk3205 MD
10/25/14 10:56 pm

So what you're saying ultimately is that your specific and individual interpretation of Christianity is universal... Rules of marriage and sex are suppression... Exclusive to religion..

dominiclandry
10/26/14 5:35 am

No, not at all. Listen to me instead of trying to pick apart Christianity. The Bible is enough. There is no following it perfectly because no one is perfect. There are aspects that can be done pretty close to perfect.

dominiclandry
10/26/14 5:37 am

Opinions at biased by nature. That's your bias. And you're biased against Christianity, don't deny that. There are definitely clear rules. Just listen instead of looking for ways to bring me down.

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 7:05 am

Im not biased against Christianity any less than I am to Islam. Like I said, I show preference to no religions, I'm treating them equally, and you speak of these rules as though they're universally followed, or that they're

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 7:08 am

Mere existence is indicative of moral superiority or responsibility. I'm not trying to bring you down, I'm sorry if you feel that way. I'm pointing out that religions, especially ones like christianity and Islam, both of which

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 7:09 am

Suppress sexuality, are not adaptive ideologies. Their religious texts are not living documents that change with the times, and when large portions are written symbolically, it's hard to define what is truth.

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 7:10 am

Not to mention the very nature of what you know to be the bible. That being: parts of texts recovered a thousand years after they were written, interpreted, translated, interpreted, translated, interpreted, almost exclusively

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 7:12 am

By white European men, for a few centuries, and that's just to get to the king James bible. How many denominations of Christianity are there, with how many versions of the bible?? Everyone is gonna get a different take on

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 7:14 am

What they're supposed to believe in. Its such an unnecessary hodgepodge. You could just teach teens to be responsible. It's easier than it sounds, but it's hard to get reality into a teens head when it's being rammed with mysticism

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 7:18 am

Clear or unclear, your rules of religion, being that they're not living ideologies, do not represent the values of a modern society, and cannot meet a modern societys needs.

dominiclandry
10/26/14 1:53 pm

You're still biased against religion. Therefore I'm not the only one showing bias. Anyways, it actually is pretty clear. As for changing with the times..it's not meant to. Just like the Constitution. There are universal truths.

dominiclandry
10/26/14 1:54 pm

Christianity does not repress sexuality. That's an ignorant belief. It's also not mystic. It's actually pretty logical

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 9:24 pm

I didnt claim not not be biased against religion. I pointed out that you were being biased against a religion different from your own. Its a claim of religious superiority..

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 9:26 pm

The constitution may contain some basic truths, but must, in order for the nation to survive, as well as not be mocked, be a living document, as changing times lead to newer legal precedents and circumstances

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 9:27 pm

Not covered in the original document, because the original document is so very limited in its applicable scope, due to changing times. We wouldn't have laws for the Internet and technology and tv etc if it weren't for changing times..

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 9:30 pm

We would still have slavery and no voting for women, children working in factories etc if it weren't for changing times. Times change, we refine ourselves, improve ourselves. We adapt to changing legal needs..

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 9:31 pm

If you want the constitution to not be a living document, you want to live in the stone age, much like your religion would like.

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 9:32 pm

The Christian repression of sexuality is not an ignorant belief.. Not only is it compatible with the Christian church's track record, but it's a widely accepted truth.. Like I said, 'if it feels good, stop' its nothing new..

JHawk3205 MD
10/26/14 9:34 pm

And the bible is easily far more mystical than logical. You don't wanna say something like that, because there are enough flaws, contradictions, and plain poppycock dogmas in the bible to make your head explode.

dominiclandry
10/27/14 4:08 am

"If it feels good stop" has nothing to do with Christianity. You're lying about you're own bias. You're wrong about the bible and you're wrong about the constitution. I say there's nothing around now that the founders couldn't have imagined.

dominiclandry
10/27/14 4:14 am

The Constitution never allowed slavery or anything to suppress women.

JHawk3205 MD
10/27/14 5:54 pm

If it feels good, stop is a very well known casual and comical understanding of christian doctrine. And im not lying about my own bias, ive said nothing to indicate such a thing.

JHawk3205 MD
10/27/14 5:56 pm

And I think this convo is coming to an end, because your last two posts are so unimaginably ignorant and window-lickingly stupid, that this is worse than trying to explain string theory to a piece of ham...

dominiclandry
10/27/14 6:37 pm

How are they ignorant? And it's a terrible understanding of Christian doctrine. Tell me this, do you think all Muslims are terrorists? That's the equivalency of what you're saying, in terms of sense. You'll certainly listen to and back a Muslim

dominiclandry
10/27/14 6:38 pm

that is speaking about how their religion actually is, but you won't for a Christian because you think you know but you have no idea. I'm so sick and tired of this ridiculous double standard. What did I say that was ignorant?

pyrology
10/20/14 8:28 pm

I started watching porn when I was 7 years old

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DeathSheep Michigan
10/20/14 8:28 pm

Ya, it's called PG.

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bMyComrade Stumptown
10/20/14 8:15 pm

No, if it was I'd never be allowed to show another historically based movie in class again! lol, reality tends to be gritty...

peterseb Idaho
10/20/14 8:11 pm

Change it back to where the "F" word is not allowed. I get tired of hearing the one "F" mentioned in PG-13 movies because it is allowed.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/20/14 9:01 pm

... "Freedom"?

singkitty In the cloud
10/21/14 4:48 am

Then don't watch those movies if you're not a fan of the language.

Swarley utah
10/21/14 5:08 pm

I think the point is he doesn't know the "f" word is going to be in the movie. how can he not watch those type of movies if he doesn't know it is going to be that kind of movie?

singkitty In the cloud
10/21/14 6:48 pm

If you know what the movie is about, and do a bit of research it's not impossible to figure out. It's up to the parents to know what their kid is watching. Don't like it? Then watch it first to be sure it's appropriate for your kid.

Swarley utah
10/21/14 7:00 pm

that's fair, but simply saying don't watch it if you don't like the language doesn't work for me.

there have been many shows that I would have never guessed would be the type to have the f word it in, yet there it was. sometimes it just creeps in.

singkitty In the cloud
10/22/14 4:31 am

Shows? Pretty sure they can't say the f word on Network TV. But my larger point is it's up to you to determine whether or not something is suitable for your kid. Not the rating system.

Swarley utah
10/22/14 12:34 pm

obviously they can't say the f word on network tv but that doesnt help when I go to the theatre. yes it is up to parents to decide what is appropriate for their kids, but the rating system is supposed to give us a clear guideline.

chickencookie It really is
10/20/14 7:57 pm

There are several sites on line that will tell you what movies will contain by category, "man touches woman's breast in kitchen" etc. I am stunned by how many parents take their 10 year olds to R movies.

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Skarface69 Retired
10/20/14 7:51 pm

Now that I'm old enough to legally go to R-rated movies alone, I don't give a fuck. Make it more restrictive than G for all I care.

PrinceOberyn Vive LEmpereur
10/20/14 7:29 pm

We need to leave it to the parents, not semi-independent organizations. That being said, we do have a blood fetish that needs looking at as well as the fact we are WAY TOO PRUDISH ABOUT THE HUMAN BODY.

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PrinceOberyn Vive LEmpereur
10/20/14 7:33 pm

"Ma'am we will forward your complaint MPAA, but in my opinion I don't think a penis is going to do as much damage to your son as the demon prince tearing into a guy and jumping rope with his innards in 'Sheogorath: The Movie' would."

JJJSchmidt San Marcos
10/20/14 7:21 pm

Well considering how corrupt and self serving the MPAA is, I don't think the current rating system should be in place at all.
And for christ sake, if you're gonna bitch about what your kids are seeing, do your fucking homework beforehand.

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Nos4at2 demented weirdo
10/20/14 7:13 pm

yeah sure, let kids stay kids for as long as possible, they will get to the grown up stuff fast enough on their own

singkitty In the cloud
10/21/14 4:49 am

Why is that the responsibility of the rating system?

ELATeacher
10/20/14 7:12 pm

Rating are not as important as good parenting. Parents need to determine what they want their kids to see. Maybe rating not based on age but rather more clearly explaining what content is their would be better.

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sprman Seattle
10/20/14 7:11 pm

It's up to parents to censor what their kids see, not Hollywood

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/20/14 9:16 pm

Hollywood developed the rating system decades ago because they were afraid the government censors would crack down on them otherwise. It worked, and now the MPAA is its own industry with its own financial interest in staying alive.

bmi444 Colorado
10/20/14 7:06 pm

Shouldn't we stop being afraid of sex? Shouldn't we stop being afraid of nudity? Isn't it about time we stop using replacement words for bad words? If we stop putting such a taboo on these things I bet there would be less crime.

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cluney
10/20/14 9:25 pm

If only people would really cuss instead of saying frick and darn it could solve our countries crime problems! Why didn't we think of this sooner!

kougrakub
10/20/14 10:48 pm

you're right bmi
let me go to a playground at an elementary nude to stick it to the man!

cluney
10/20/14 7:05 pm

The thing that bothers me most is language. Pg13 at one time would not allow the f bomb. Then it allowed one. Recently I have seen a couple of pg13 with 2 f words. I just don't see the purpose of bad language in most movies.

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USA1st
10/20/14 10:02 pm

To me, it ruins the movies because it's so unnecessary.

Spiritof76 USA 1776
10/20/14 10:48 pm

Disagree. Ever tried watching an edited/censured TV version of a PG-13/R movie? Also, a movie portraying US soldiers in heavy combat with no cuss words? Only John Wayne would approve of that.

cluney
10/21/14 6:47 am

I said most movies. I realize it's necessary for accuracy in war/gang/etc movies, but when they say GD just because they can, I have a problem.

catpillow Florida West Coast
10/20/14 7:03 pm

I don't have kids, so I really don't feel qualified to answer this one. My gut feeling is just rate the level of sex, violence, whatever in movies and let parents decide if their children are mature enough to see it or not.

catpillow Florida West Coast
10/20/14 7:06 pm

Honestly, there are some levels of violence and sex I would prefer not to see, even at my advanced age. I'd just as soon be warned by a rating system, too.

ThomasK
10/20/14 7:00 pm

13 year olds aren't 5 year olds. The ratings are fine. Maybe less violence though.

Sriracha
10/20/14 6:49 pm

Adjusting rating systems can't replace proper parenting.

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/20/14 6:47 pm

No. I believe that, many times, the rating system rates movies too unnecessarily strictly.