You see two kids alone in a car on a hot day. What do you do?
Assuming the car is on and they're alert, then wave, make funny face. If the car is off, and they're conscious, tell them to open the windows. Car off, kids unconscious? 911 and bust the window.
Depends if the windows are down.
Ask if they're ok, then try to find the parents. 911 is a last resort.
Why on earth would I call 911?!
What if they're unconscious and drenched in sweat?
I mean, if they're unconscious, that's different, but there's no way I could tell if they weren't just sleeping.
Call 911 .... Then break the window!
Would do the same for a Dog
Why? It's a dog.
I love Dogs along with Humans
If you knew my dog .... you'd understand.. :)
I treat her as well as I treat kids
I would call 911 only if they looked like in immediate danger. I would try other measures first.
I have knocked on car windows, an elderly man, in Colorado, I have called the police (for a puppy, none the less) in Kansas. Don't sit & wait. Call.
If they're in distress, call 911 check the doors and bust a window if they're locked. We can do that here for animals
Call 911 to alert emergency personnel and ask if I have permission to break and enter to remove the kids from the hazardous situation and provide first aid if needed.
You don't need permission to rescue someone in danger. Just make sure that they're really in danger first.
Tell them to crack their windows open a bit so they can breathe.
They can't do that if the car isn't running.
They can if it has manual windows. They're not that uncommon.
They are pretty uncommon where I come from.
I call 911 standby the car I take down their license plate in case somebody comes. If I given instructions to break a window I will do so.
What if no one comes for 20 minutes?
I would be in contact with the police.
Depends on where the car was parked. I'd go inside the store or business and inquire or bring attention to it Kermie.
In a store parking lot? Nothing, their parent probably just ran into the store.
This would entirely depend on whether they seem very uncomfortable. Problem is, I haven't owned a car in years, so I know neither if modem cars have child safety locks that cannot be overridden from inside or a quiet AC that can run with engine off.
I just imagine I smash a window, the kids are scared to death - and I encounter a blast of cold air from the inside and an angry mob from the parking lot.
Child safety locks are still in use and some vehicles do allow for AC to run without the engine on.
Electric vent fans maybe, but AC needs a working engine driven compressor to cool the air.
Ah I read this earlier. I'd call 911 and take their advice. But I would also enlist the aid of the nearest woman for the same reasons outlined in that article. 15 minutes in California sun is just too long.
I didn't read the article....nearest woman?
Explanation in the article.
In the AZ summer, just a few minutes in a car not running AC can cause serious and permanent damage--even death. At 10 am this morning, the inside of my truck was 112. I don't like to interfere, but I sure as hell won't risk a child's life.
AZ has laws regarding this as well. If one feels there is a danger, they call the police, provide some info, and the police will then authorize the 'Samaritan' entry to the vehicle. This includes smashing out a window. As per the story...
Those girls were old enough to let themselves out, so that complicates it a bit. Either way, I'd probably report it.
a lot depends on how it looks inside the car. how young, do they look like they are suffering, are windows open? I'd prob go over to check on them and ask where the parent is. depending on what I find out I could very well be calling 911.
I agree. This was my thought, too.
Major issues: Heat Stroke. Kidnap Targets. Wandering Lost Kids. Age dependent, call cops. CPS can give them needed guidance.
It can also give the parent major trouble, which I don't see any reason to in the example in the article.
9 & 12 y/o girls are easy targets for a skilled pedophile predator.
True. I would take the risk rather than calling the cops. Milkduds suggestion video documenting is a good idea.
Calling the cops is last on my list. I would first check on the girls, see if they look OK, and if I can get them to confirm. Then get the registration, go to the store, have them call the owner. If there are many stores or it's unclear where the
Parent could be, I would rather try to open the car door, it may not be locked. I wouldn't call the cops unless the kids were in clear danger.
Sensible as always
I was considering the case in the article. The kids' age, the temperature etc. would all matter.
Only problem with that is that our society is a bit uncomfortable with men opening doors to gain access to kids they don't have any connection to.
Thanks. Interesting question.
I'd only open the door if I could see the kids were distressed. And even then I'd take a few seconds of video first.
I agree I wouldn't open the door at first, but it can be difficult to know how bad it is inside until you open the door. Camera is a good idea.
I'd be a little concerned if I saw a guy recording a couple of preteen girls locked in a car.
Ugh, it looks like I will get in trouble no matter what I do. I hope I never face this situation.
Duck, that's a good point.
Tom, you should have someone record you while you're recording them to document that you aren't being creepy.
LOL I will try to remember that.
Maybe the pre-teens in the car will record you as you're recording them. I'm sure they have smart phones.
If the widows are shut, the kids are car seat age, the car isn't running, they're crying ect I call and possibly break the window depending. Otherwise, I most likely wait a bit to make sure they're not in a situation like above.
I've heard before messages on the PA of Wal-Mart saying "owner of such and such, get your kids out of the car" (summary). I think if the kids aren't in danger, that's a good move. But there've also been police accompanying at times, and I think it's
a good call based on the temperature that day (I've had a cat with no writing ac most of my adult life, so I think I have a decent handle on when it's too hot).
If they look like they aren't doing good, I'll go buy water and if their there when I come back I'll open up the car. Then wait for the parents so I can tell them to hydrate their kids, damn soda.
I would sit and wait until someone came out or I saw the kids in immediate danger. I would say something to the parent. This remind me of a similar story from Hawaii where a patent was charged for making his 8 year old walk home a mike. I'll attach
a link as the story is interesting.
That's nuts. I wish someone would make me walk a mile in Kauai haha
The parent would STILL get get angry with you despite the fact that you were looking out for their kids.
suppressed.... probably but oh well!
It's still the right thing to do.
well, if it's a really hot day... I might wait 5 minutes and after that I'm calling the cops and or breaking that damn window. sue me
Even if they're old enough to open the door themselves and you'd spray them with broken glass?
I'd break a window away from the kids. If they're old enough to roll down the windows, then I'd tell them to.
Realistically, I'd probably just call the cops.
Id wait like the guy in the article did. People chronically overreact in our society and I have seen the destructive impact CPS can have on families firsthand (not my own family, thank God).
I'd only get those people involved as a last resort.
Agree to agree.
Seriously? We agree?
That hasn't happened in a while!
Question taken directly from the title of this blog entry:
I think it raises some interesting points.
What a great article. I'm glad a parent wrote it too, I feel like it has more of an impact on the reader (or at least it did for this reader).