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kermie June 12th, 2014 1:14am

You see two kids alone in a car on a hot day. What do you do?

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sdbrev210 The Pursuit of Happiness
06/14/14 8:04 am

Assuming the car is on and they're alert, then wave, make funny face. If the car is off, and they're conscious, tell them to open the windows. Car off, kids unconscious? 911 and bust the window.

commonsense America isnt racist
06/13/14 9:10 pm

Depends if the windows are down.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
06/13/14 4:22 pm

Ask if they're ok, then try to find the parents. 911 is a last resort.

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Ivyra Earth
06/13/14 2:29 pm

Why on earth would I call 911?!

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sdbrev210 The Pursuit of Happiness
06/14/14 8:05 am

What if they're unconscious and drenched in sweat?

Ivyra Earth
06/15/14 7:50 pm

I mean, if they're unconscious, that's different, but there's no way I could tell if they weren't just sleeping.

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
06/13/14 1:54 pm

Call 911 .... Then break the window!
Would do the same for a Dog

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HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
06/14/14 12:43 am

I love Dogs along with Humans
If you knew my dog .... you'd understand.. :)
I treat her as well as I treat kids

bnnt Los Angeles
06/13/14 10:52 am

I would call 911 only if they looked like in immediate danger. I would try other measures first.

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yorkie62
06/13/14 9:30 am

I have knocked on car windows, an elderly man, in Colorado, I have called the police (for a puppy, none the less) in Kansas. Don't sit & wait. Call.

affd
06/13/14 5:47 am

If they're in distress, call 911 check the doors and bust a window if they're locked. We can do that here for animals

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FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
06/13/14 4:46 am

Call 911 to alert emergency personnel and ask if I have permission to break and enter to remove the kids from the hazardous situation and provide first aid if needed.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
06/14/14 12:34 am

You don't need permission to rescue someone in danger. Just make sure that they're really in danger first.

professorwho Madness and Genius
06/12/14 10:08 pm

Tell them to crack their windows open a bit so they can breathe.

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raven1247
06/13/14 6:23 am

They can't do that if the car isn't running.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
06/14/14 12:34 am

They can if it has manual windows. They're not that uncommon.

raven1247
06/14/14 7:39 pm

They are pretty uncommon where I come from.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
06/12/14 4:10 pm

I call 911 standby the car I take down their license plate in case somebody comes. If I given instructions to break a window I will do so.

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TopsQueen Oregon Coast
06/14/14 10:08 am

I would be in contact with the police.

Pirate Uses the Tap
06/12/14 2:29 am

Depends on where the car was parked. I'd go inside the store or business and inquire or bring attention to it Kermie.

jackietheman Just Stop...
06/11/14 9:06 pm

In a store parking lot? Nothing, their parent probably just ran into the store.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
06/11/14 8:56 pm

This would entirely depend on whether they seem very uncomfortable. Problem is, I haven't owned a car in years, so I know neither if modem cars have child safety locks that cannot be overridden from inside or a quiet AC that can run with engine off.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
06/11/14 8:57 pm

I just imagine I smash a window, the kids are scared to death - and I encounter a blast of cold air from the inside and an angry mob from the parking lot.

FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
06/13/14 4:48 am

Child safety locks are still in use and some vehicles do allow for AC to run without the engine on.

sdbrev210 The Pursuit of Happiness
06/14/14 8:09 am

Electric vent fans maybe, but AC needs a working engine driven compressor to cool the air.

fredd TrumpLand
06/11/14 7:56 pm

Ah I read this earlier. I'd call 911 and take their advice. But I would also enlist the aid of the nearest woman for the same reasons outlined in that article. 15 minutes in California sun is just too long.

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sdbrev210 The Pursuit of Happiness
06/14/14 8:10 am

I didn't read the article....nearest woman?

fredd TrumpLand
06/14/14 10:36 am

Explanation in the article.

presrvd Phoenix
06/11/14 7:29 pm

In the AZ summer, just a few minutes in a car not running AC can cause serious and permanent damage--even death. At 10 am this morning, the inside of my truck was 112. I don't like to interfere, but I sure as hell won't risk a child's life.

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presrvd Phoenix
06/11/14 7:32 pm

AZ has laws regarding this as well. If one feels there is a danger, they call the police, provide some info, and the police will then authorize the 'Samaritan' entry to the vehicle. This includes smashing out a window. As per the story...

presrvd Phoenix
06/11/14 7:33 pm

Those girls were old enough to let themselves out, so that complicates it a bit. Either way, I'd probably report it.

Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
06/11/14 7:16 pm

a lot depends on how it looks inside the car. how young, do they look like they are suffering, are windows open? I'd prob go over to check on them and ask where the parent is. depending on what I find out I could very well be calling 911.

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zuko on deck
06/11/14 8:35 pm

I agree. This was my thought, too.

jestana My Minds Eye
06/11/14 6:49 pm

Major issues: Heat Stroke. Kidnap Targets. Wandering Lost Kids. Age dependent, call cops. CPS can give them needed guidance.

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TomM
06/11/14 6:51 pm

It can also give the parent major trouble, which I don't see any reason to in the example in the article.

jestana My Minds Eye
06/11/14 6:52 pm

9 & 12 y/o girls are easy targets for a skilled pedophile predator.

TomM
06/11/14 6:56 pm

True. I would take the risk rather than calling the cops. Milkduds suggestion video documenting is a good idea.

TomM
06/11/14 6:42 pm

Calling the cops is last on my list. I would first check on the girls, see if they look OK, and if I can get them to confirm. Then get the registration, go to the store, have them call the owner. If there are many stores or it's unclear where the

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TomM
06/11/14 6:43 pm

Parent could be, I would rather try to open the car door, it may not be locked. I wouldn't call the cops unless the kids were in clear danger.

kermie gaytopia
06/11/14 6:46 pm

Sensible as always

TomM
06/11/14 6:46 pm

I was considering the case in the article. The kids' age, the temperature etc. would all matter.

MrMilkdud
06/11/14 6:47 pm

Only problem with that is that our society is a bit uncomfortable with men opening doors to gain access to kids they don't have any connection to.

TomM
06/11/14 6:47 pm

Thanks. Interesting question.

MrMilkdud
06/11/14 6:47 pm

I'd only open the door if I could see the kids were distressed. And even then I'd take a few seconds of video first.

TomM
06/11/14 6:48 pm

I agree I wouldn't open the door at first, but it can be difficult to know how bad it is inside until you open the door. Camera is a good idea.

DuckAndCower
06/13/14 3:13 pm

I'd be a little concerned if I saw a guy recording a couple of preteen girls locked in a car.

TomM
06/13/14 3:24 pm

Ugh, it looks like I will get in trouble no matter what I do. I hope I never face this situation.

MrMilkdud
06/13/14 3:34 pm

Duck, that's a good point.
Tom, you should have someone record you while you're recording them to document that you aren't being creepy.

TomM
06/13/14 3:36 pm

LOL I will try to remember that.

kermie gaytopia
06/13/14 3:55 pm

Maybe the pre-teens in the car will record you as you're recording them. I'm sure they have smart phones.

Rosebud Ohio
06/11/14 6:36 pm

If the widows are shut, the kids are car seat age, the car isn't running, they're crying ect I call and possibly break the window depending. Otherwise, I most likely wait a bit to make sure they're not in a situation like above.

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Rosebud Ohio
06/11/14 6:42 pm

I've heard before messages on the PA of Wal-Mart saying "owner of such and such, get your kids out of the car" (summary). I think if the kids aren't in danger, that's a good move. But there've also been police accompanying at times, and I think it's

Rosebud Ohio
06/11/14 6:43 pm

a good call based on the temperature that day (I've had a cat with no writing ac most of my adult life, so I think I have a decent handle on when it's too hot).

InspectorSpooky Deep Underground
06/11/14 6:34 pm

If they look like they aren't doing good, I'll go buy water and if their there when I come back I'll open up the car. Then wait for the parents so I can tell them to hydrate their kids, damn soda.

Kay41 the Midwest
06/11/14 6:29 pm

I would sit and wait until someone came out or I saw the kids in immediate danger. I would say something to the parent. This remind me of a similar story from Hawaii where a patent was charged for making his 8 year old walk home a mike. I'll attach

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Kay41 the Midwest
06/11/14 6:30 pm

a link as the story is interesting.

kermie gaytopia
06/11/14 6:45 pm

That's nuts. I wish someone would make me walk a mile in Kauai haha

suppressedID suck it Kyle
06/11/14 6:52 pm

The parent would STILL get get angry with you despite the fact that you were looking out for their kids.

Kay41 the Midwest
06/11/14 6:55 pm

suppressed.... probably but oh well!

suppressedID suck it Kyle
06/11/14 7:26 pm

It's still the right thing to do.

palindrome California
06/11/14 6:23 pm

well, if it's a really hot day... I might wait 5 minutes and after that I'm calling the cops and or breaking that damn window. sue me

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kermie gaytopia
06/11/14 6:43 pm

Even if they're old enough to open the door themselves and you'd spray them with broken glass?

palindrome California
06/11/14 7:52 pm

I'd break a window away from the kids. If they're old enough to roll down the windows, then I'd tell them to.

Realistically, I'd probably just call the cops.

MrMilkdud
06/11/14 6:22 pm

Id wait like the guy in the article did. People chronically overreact in our society and I have seen the destructive impact CPS can have on families firsthand (not my own family, thank God).
I'd only get those people involved as a last resort.

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MrMilkdud
06/11/14 6:51 pm

Seriously? We agree?
Damn.
That hasn't happened in a while!

kermie gaytopia
06/11/14 6:14 pm

Question taken directly from the title of this blog entry:

www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/06/11/kids_left_alone_in_cars_should_adults_call_the_police_or_mind_their_own.html

I think it raises some interesting points.

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FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
06/11/14 7:06 pm

What a great article. I'm glad a parent wrote it too, I feel like it has more of an impact on the reader (or at least it did for this reader).