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political June 11th, 2014 4:24pm

Eric Cantor out spent his primary challenger 26 to 1 and lost. Does this signify money becoming less influential in politics?

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elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
06/13/14 4:52 pm

Focus on principles & solutions. Speak facts, not promises. "$s don't vote. Ppl do." Energize constituents.

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elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
06/13/14 4:50 pm

It was a fluke & a convergence of factors. But results *could* be replicated if PPL turned out to campaign/vote. Loved Brat's comment: $ don't vote; ppl do. It really could be that simple.

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tsd715 New York City
06/13/14 5:08 am

He spent almost no time in his district campaigning. I hate Brat's politics but I think he is better suited to that district than Cantor.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
06/13/14 12:51 am

It signifies why the TEA Party is still strong and gaining. We know how to solve problems without throwing money at them, hand-over-fist.

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elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
06/13/14 4:55 pm

Brat didn't run as TEA party candidate. He ran on pure old fashioned historical Republican platform. It demonstrates that too many Republicans have no idea what the term means anymore. If they did, there would BE no TEA Party.

2katz I live in Nebraska
06/12/14 10:52 pm

I heard one of many mistakes Cantor made was his campaign ads focused on smearing Brat, which put Brat's name before many voters who had not been aware they had a choice.

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MichaelAZuniga Jackson, GA
06/12/14 9:47 pm

No, he just got smug. Oh and it was more like 50 to 1

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eLucidate writing
06/12/14 7:31 pm

One case does not indicate a trend.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
06/12/14 11:01 am

No, just an example that no amount of money is enough to polish a shine on some turds.

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Diknak Ohio
06/12/14 10:39 am

only if the opponent appeals to the population and points out crony capitalism.

dkspartan Bay Area
06/12/14 9:19 am

Cantor lost because he was unpopular in his district and was never around. Brat ran a campaign about how he was the exact opposite of Cantor, even if it was a one issue campaign, combined with the low turnout, around 5 percent, Cantor had no shot

persuader
06/12/14 9:19 am

Thankfully there are now many other vehicles available to communicate with the public. Money is still a factor. However, it has become less so, at least until the govt becomes involved in regulating that which has been and is now free.

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thursday Kansas
06/12/14 9:18 am

No. It means if you piss off your constituents enough, you can't buy their votes.

RJ1969 SoCal
06/12/14 6:35 am

No. More importantly, the only campaigning he did in his district was 1 memorial day parade. No town halls. No local events. No public outreach.

Rob Be Safe Be Smart
06/11/14 5:22 pm

Not at all. It proves that Cantor wasn't crazy enough for his base. Which is a scary thought. At least the guy that beat him is in to economics, let's Hope that has something to do with it.

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MaxineL New Jersey
06/11/14 7:14 pm

Not really, he wants to cut social security and Medicare, do away with the IRS, and was not able to answer simple questions such as did he support the minimum wage, etc.

MaxineL New Jersey
06/11/14 7:15 pm

He is just a crazy Tea Party person who played to the crazies in the electorate.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
06/13/14 12:54 am

Social security are two of the largest expenditures in the budget. Cutting them significantly would do a lot for balancing the budget.
The IRS is a corrupt, political weapon. It needs to be abolished and replaced by a simple, fair, flat tax.

Rob Be Safe Be Smart
06/13/14 8:18 am

How old are you again pink? I just would like to know for the basis of this conversation.

elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
06/13/14 4:58 pm

He was & is NOT a TEA Party politician. He ran on historical REPUBLICAN platform & principles.

JerzJim Mostly Politics
06/11/14 3:41 pm

I think it's an example that all the money in the world means nothing when spent wrong.

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FalloutBoy97 Ohio
06/11/14 11:59 am

Unfortunately no, the problem with Cantor is that he was running his campaign from Washington and was lulled into a false sense of security by awful polling.

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EarlyBird Portland
06/11/14 1:43 pm

This ⬆️

Diogenes FreeMeBe
06/11/14 11:34 am

No. It indicates how upset folks are at the incumbents.

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DeusOrbus Stay Positive
06/11/14 10:07 am

It is a single example, there have always been exceptions to the rules. This doesn't change the 100's of elections in which money but the election.

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itsOkay no longer answering here
06/11/14 10:38 am

I don't believe it's possible for money to buy an election. Only voters can vote. When they pull the curtain it's their own thinking that matters. This anecdotal case proves that money can get a message out, but it isn't alone in the equation.

itsOkay no longer answering here
06/11/14 10:39 am

To say that money buys elections is to posit that voters can't think or exercise their own will.

Wait!! You might be on to something.

DeusOrbus Stay Positive
06/11/14 10:48 am

The vote doesn't matter when the same donors donate to both campaigns leading to the donor having their claws into both candidates. While Brat only received $200,000 that's still someone's money who will probably influence him in a similar way to

DeusOrbus Stay Positive
06/11/14 10:49 am

Cantor. So it isn't that voters are stupid that's the issue, the issue is that there's no way to "win" as a voter.

itsOkay no longer answering here
06/11/14 10:51 am

No doubt that money is an influence, but it's just one influence and it's mostly transparent these days. We know how much is spent by who in most cases and where it came from. This exception disproves the rule that you're proposing.

ScrewU Gone
06/11/14 11:12 am

I think the difference here was that voters knew Cantor personally, and were not satisfied with the job he's been doing. In national elections, money buys advertising to convince voters your opponent is something they're not.

itsOkay no longer answering here
06/11/14 10:04 am

It signifies that money doesn't buy elections. It gets a message out, but the voters can still reject it.

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soupyquinn Jr. nuke tester
06/11/14 10:01 am

You can't call a broad national trend on one election.

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elianastar Gab.ai FreeSpeech
06/13/14 5:01 pm

Time will tell. Entirely possible that is accurate, but I won't agree until last vote counted in November. :-)

ScrewU Gone
06/11/14 9:59 am

Every caller on local radio today said they voted against him because he is arrogant and unresponsive. He doesn't even return his constituents calls or emails.

Local elections are about people, not money.

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ScrewU Gone
06/11/14 9:59 am

It didn't help that he spent Election Day in DC. lol

political Georgia
06/11/14 10:01 am

He was counting his chickens before they hatched.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
06/11/14 11:36 am

He was focused on inheriting the speakership from Boner.

ScrewU Gone
06/11/14 11:38 am

He still can. The speaker doesn't have to be a member of the house.

duey in a fools paradise
06/11/14 9:56 am

In primaries like this anyone can vote, it would be interesting to see how many democrats turned out. As hateful and dishonest as this party has become it might surprise all of us. I know republicans blah, blah, blah I agree!

jvc1133 61535
06/11/14 9:46 am

It shows that people are tired of treaty illegal entry like its a right

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Abolitionist Voice of the people
06/11/14 9:53 am

They were encouraged by uncle Reagan's amnesty bill.

political Georgia
06/11/14 9:55 am

Then Bush didn't learn from Reagan's mistake.

Abolitionist Voice of the people
06/11/14 10:35 am

I hope you're happy with the House of Representatives because you'll never win the White House if you're not willing to negotiate immigration

political Georgia
06/11/14 11:04 am

Like Republicans will be able to beat Hillary anyways.

brisket Illinois
06/11/14 9:33 am

I think it has to do with his views more than anything.

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political Georgia
06/11/14 9:36 am

I am just surprised voters actually looked at where each candidate stands on issues.

nickelb Texas
06/11/14 9:42 am

They looked on immigration. Thats the only difference.

political Georgia
06/11/14 9:43 am

Good!

Also, the debt ceiling.

Pirate Uses the Tap
06/11/14 9:43 am

I agree with you political.

political Georgia
06/11/14 9:45 am

That's good for a change! :)

Pirate Uses the Tap
06/11/14 9:52 am

@political, I do think people tend to keep voting in the same incumbents without paying attention to their voting record because they think their tenure will benefit their state. I hope thats ending now. yes political we do agree on some things :-)

political Georgia
06/11/14 9:54 am

Eric Cantor is a Wall Street darling, and he has always appeared out of touch not to say any politician can relate to the everyday person too well.

Pirate Uses the Tap
06/11/14 9:57 am

Like our Senator, Thad Cochran. Looks to me he might lose in the next primary coming up in couple of weeks to a tea party candidate. We'll see.

political Georgia
06/11/14 9:59 am

I thought Cochran was from Texas. Silly me

Pirate Uses the Tap
06/11/14 9:30 am

I hope this signals less big money. It was all wasted money. I hope all the incumbents get voted out. Congress needs to be shook up so they don't take their positions for granted like Cantor did.

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political Georgia
06/11/14 9:37 am

In 2010 Georgia's Governor Race, Nathan Deal spent the least amount of money, and he won. So, maybe there is hope.

political Georgia
06/11/14 9:26 am

How in the world did Dave Brat pull this off? He only had two staffers and 200,000 dollars. Somehow, he beat Cantor by 10%. I am impressed.

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jackietheman Just Stop...
06/11/14 9:46 am

The really into it voters show up to primaries.