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RINOTom June 11th, 2014 5:25am

Would you have belonged to your current political party at every point that it was around in American history (i.e., if you're a Democrat now, would you have always been or is there any time when you wouldn't have been one?)

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Pumpkin127
06/11/14 7:44 am

Well political parties have changed a lot throughout history, like at the time during Lincoln's presidency, republican was the liberal party. So I guess then I would've been a republican.

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RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 10:21 am

That's a pretty overgeneralized myth, actually. Lincoln's GOP was fiercely pro-business, supported prohibition and was very anti-immigration. People have simply concluded abolishing slavery was "liberal."

Pumpkin127
06/11/14 10:28 am

Really? I didn't realize. I'll research a bit more on it, then. Thank you :)

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 10:34 am

There were certainly some liberals in the GOP, but there were many conservatives! Both parties had socially conservative and socially liberal elements; it was fiscal issues that united them. Just finished an advanced Civil War class, and it was...

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 10:35 am

... one of the coolest classes I've ever taken!!

Pumpkin127
06/11/14 10:36 am

I have the option of taking an honors civil war tutorial next year, maybe I should look into it :)

jackietheman Just Stop...
06/11/14 7:09 am

I'm pretty sure I would have always registered republican, called myself a libertarian, thought libertarian, voted for the libertarian or true conservative running

Diknak Ohio
06/11/14 7:04 am

I'm an independent, so yeah, I would have always been an independent.

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calicosolo Wisconsin
06/11/14 6:40 am

I've always voted for who I thought was best

Redwallr hyrule
06/11/14 6:36 am

Well considering that the political parties have changed over time the answer for all of us would be no.

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RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 10:23 am

They've changed but not completely. Economic populists (like Elizabeth Warren) would have ALWAYS found common ground on fiscal issues with the Democrats while pro-business politicians (like Mitt Romney) would have most likely always been Republicans.

Redwallr hyrule
06/11/14 10:59 am

While it is true that ideas are shared, that doesn't answer the question. While the ideas of the democrat party today were around, the actual party was not alway around. Same goes for republican party and other parties.

Redwallr hyrule
06/11/14 11:02 am

It depends how literal you are taking the question. If you are taking the question literally and addressing the actual party, the answer would be no. If you are taking it less literally, addressing the ideas, then the answer would be up to you.

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 12:50 pm

Right. And I have no issue disagreeing with my current party on several issues, so I'm guessing I'd feel the same during any time period!!

Redwallr hyrule
06/11/14 4:33 pm

:) but you do understand what I am trying to say yes?

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/12/14 12:21 am

Of course! Rock on. ;)

Redwallr hyrule
06/12/14 9:01 am

Yay! :D *intensive air guitar playing*

Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
06/11/14 5:58 am

my nature is such that I think I would have always been an independent.

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skinner Jersey City
06/11/14 4:59 am

I'm with Tom I can't think of a time I wouldn't vote Republican as long as the party has existed.

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ozzy
06/11/14 4:50 am

No. There are times in history that I would have been a Whig or a democrat

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ozzy
06/11/14 2:22 pm

Because the labels have changed soooo much

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 2:57 pm

Agreed, but certain groups (unions, the working class, immigrants, the intellectual community, Catholics, etc.) have always been relatively loyal to Democrats while others (Wall Street, White Protestants, the self-employed, the ultra religious,...

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 2:58 pm

... the wealthy, etc.) have always been loyal to the GOP. The parties have changed a lot, that's for sure; but both still can trace their roots back to those who founded them.

DavesNotHere where am I
06/11/14 3:14 am

No, I would have been a republican the 19th century when it was the anti slavery party and was led by a man named Lincoln.

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RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/11/14 10:24 am

Cool, me too!! I still remain one today, too, however.

veritas1 Panda
06/11/14 12:01 am

Would have been a Hamiltonian, then a Radical Republican from Lincoln to reconstruction. Then a mainstream republican. Then the Republicans went looney, so independent from there on out.

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veritas1 Panda
06/11/14 12:01 am

through reconstruction*

FalloutBoy97 Ohio
06/10/14 11:42 pm

I would have been a republican from that party's conception to the Great Depression, where I would have a become a swing voter until settling as a democrat until the present.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
06/10/14 11:25 pm

No. I was a Republican, and then I wasn't. At this point it seems unthinkable I would ever become one again.

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RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 11:40 pm

Really? That kind of surprised me.

NDAmerican Florida
06/10/14 11:23 pm

No, from 1908-1920 I would say I would have been an independent. I would have been a republican from 1896-1908. And before then I would be an Independent until the pre civil war. I would remain a republican until 1968, and would once again in 1980.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
06/10/14 11:23 pm

Libertarian now, but during the revolutionary war I'd have been a Tory and would have supported the Crown over what I'd have perceived as a ragtag band of mutineers.

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Mattwall1
06/10/14 10:29 pm

I can't say I would've always been a democrat.

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 10:31 pm

Yeah, the Democrat results will be interesting because of the party's troubled history with racial policies, though there WERE many abolitionist Democrats during the pre-Civil War era and many pro-civil rights Dems long before the '60s, too.

Mattwall1
06/10/14 10:33 pm

Yeah I mean I know that my family for example were pro civil rights democrats long before the CRA of 1964. So on that end, I'd be fine. But yeah the pre civil war period I probably would've been a republican just because, well, you know

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 10:28 pm

I can't think of a time where I would not have been a Republican.

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Mattwall1
06/10/14 10:29 pm

Maybe 1916? But even that's a guess on my end

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 10:32 pm

Even though Hughes was a relatively liberal Republican, I would not have liked Wilson for his economic policies and heavy business regulation or for his open racism (even placing myself in that time). I wouldn't have been enthusiastic either way.

Mattwall1
06/10/14 10:34 pm

Wait sorry that should've said 1912 not 1916

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 10:40 pm

Oh, yes then I might have supported Roosevelt. Little known fact, a lot of people don't realize that one of TR's biggest problems with Taft was that Taft took antitrust policies too far and was regulating the economy more than Roosevelt had ever...

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 10:41 pm

... intended. The label of "Progressive Party" often throws people off, but Roosevelt was probably the most conservative candidate in that election.

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 10:42 pm

(Given that no candidate was anywhere near radically conservative. Wilson would clearly be the most liberal.)

Mattwall1
06/10/14 10:44 pm

Well Eugene debs did get 6% of the vote in that election. I hope you aren't saying he was to the right if Wilson

RINOTom Peoria, IL
06/10/14 10:52 pm

True, I forgot about the socialist. He'd clearly be the most liberal, haha.