Show of HandsShow of Hands

veritas1 June 3rd, 2014 10:25pm

So I'm gonna be doin more than a few polls about global warming this week. So if you're uninterested or don't want your beliefs challenged, you can unfollow I guess. IMPORTANT: Clarification about what global warming means in the comments.

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suppressedID hope despite the times
06/03/14 5:53 pm

After the weekend's poll debacle, why do I think RedSox95 WON'T be participating.

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 6:47 pm

Haha. I don't foresee a cowboy appearance either.

RJ1969 SoCal
06/03/14 6:49 pm

Is that why he was pissy the other night?

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 6:55 pm

Oh. I got that impression that he, like me, always came across pissy on SOH.

redsox95 New England
06/03/14 7:02 pm

I'm glad to see you guys are already scared that I'll be participated. Facts aren't your style I guess.

RJ1969 SoCal
06/03/14 7:03 pm

Oh yeeeeeeah! Looky!

redsox95 New England
06/03/14 7:05 pm

So lets get started and talk about the hoax!

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 7:32 pm

Woooo! Science!

mc88 Cleveland OSU
06/03/14 7:48 pm

Can't wait for this. Fuck em up redsox

RJ1969 SoCal
06/03/14 7:49 pm

* yawn *

DrReid Ever present.
06/05/14 7:16 am

Repeating mindless discredited catchphrases from the far right echo chambers, does not really show a mastery of the facts Redsox...

06/03/14 5:50 pm

I'm looking forward to the polls. :)

Arananthi Literal Ninja
06/03/14 5:17 pm

Hmmm...never occurred to me that the ocean temperature was a relevant factor in global warming; I've always thought of it in terms of air temperature. Sure takes a shitload of warming to affect the thermal mass of the oceans. I might rethink this...

RJ1969 SoCal
06/03/14 5:42 pm

The vast majority of energy (heat) is stored in the oceans.

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 6:46 pm

Yep. That 90% figure constitutes a 17 x 10^21 Joule addition since 1960.

fredd TrumpLand
06/03/14 4:50 pm

Looking forward to it, cheers veritas.

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 6:44 pm

I hope I don't disappoint.

osouless Whats Next
06/03/14 3:56 pm

I love you man. I'm glad you're back.

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 6:43 pm

Thanks, man. I'm glad to be back.

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 3:27 pm

AGW=anthropogenic global warming

So when we talk about global warming, we're talking about a GLOBAL phenomenon. This isn't strictly an atmospheric event.

90% of excess heat storage is stored in the OCEANS. Only 2% of added heat content is stored in

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 3:29 pm

the atmosphere. The rest is stored in land and ice. As a corollary to that, total heat content will be defined as the heat content of the oceans, water, and ice (technically land as well, but it's marginal at best).

One more consequence is that

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 3:31 pm

using short term atmospheric data is generally considered a bad metric because you are examining by far the most variable (most internal variability) 2% of the total data spectrum. That's not good science especially when you're only looking at a

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 3:33 pm

10-15 time span.

One last thing: there is a difference between climate and weather. Weather is a short-term phenomenon. Climate in this context is long-term atmospheric (note the specificity compared to AGW) conditions.

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 3:35 pm

So specific things like "there's weren't many hurricanes this year" or "we had a really cold winter" will occur despite long term trends. A common analogy is the coin toss example. You can't say whether a flip will be heads or tails, but you know it

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 3:35 pm

will converge to a 50-50 ratio long-term.

OhTheIrony Learning from you
06/03/14 3:37 pm

You and your logic and scientific rationality. Unfollowed.

veritas1 Panda
06/03/14 3:39 pm

Sharing is equally appreciated.

OhTheIrony Learning from you
06/03/14 3:42 pm

Just shared. Although I think any followers I have are already following you. After all, we are the same person.

suppressedID hope despite the times
06/03/14 5:54 pm

Too many words for Cons to read: academic elitism!!!