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rynefrompf June 2nd, 2014 5:14pm

Do you believe that growing income and wealth inequality is more of a result of conservative government policies or is it a result of defects in our economic system?

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RBecker17 The Sultan of Rum
06/04/14 9:34 am

Can we answer liberal economic policy?

political Georgia
06/02/14 1:28 pm

Class warfare policies only divide Americans, but it allows liberals to get elected.

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rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 1:46 pm

The rich are the ones launching the war.

political Georgia
06/02/14 1:47 pm

Yeah! They are just the ones providing the jobs!

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 1:49 pm

Tell me how a single wealthy person creates jobs...Really, I'd love to hear it. Consumer demand creates jobs and services, not the wealthy. They may invest to start companies, but that's it. And even if you raise their taxes, they still invest.

krayzewolf New Hampshire
06/02/14 1:50 pm

I'm pretty sure it's our government who gets us in wars.

political Georgia
06/02/14 1:51 pm

Sure...You have to have consumption to produce demand, but you have to have businesses to produce the supply. Businesses provide the jobs to produce the supply. Agree?

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 1:54 pm

Without demand, businesses wouldn't exist. If you cut taxes on the "supply-side", it does nothing.

political Georgia
06/02/14 1:55 pm

Businesses have a profit motive. Their whole goal is to produce more profit by expanding their business. When they expand their business, more jobs are required.

political Georgia
06/02/14 1:56 pm

And yes, cutting taxes frees up money for businesses to expand their business.

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 2:43 pm

If there's no demand, they're not going to expand. Cutting taxes on supply does nothing, unless they're too high. And as the historical record, points out, they aren't.

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 2:45 pm

The whole goal of business is to make profit. Expanding business is irrelevant. If it's in their interest to expand to make more profit, they will. If they can cut costs any way they can (which means outsourcing, avoiding taxes, etc), they will.

Arananthi Literal Ninja
06/02/14 3:48 pm

Also, if the wealthy have options other than "create/expand a business" for getting wealthier, and those options have better RoIs than "create/expand a business", they'll take those other options instead, and your tax cuts just did jack.

krayzewolf New Hampshire
06/02/14 1:25 pm

"Conservative government policies"

We haven't had conservatism in government in a couple decades.

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 1:46 pm

Lol I don't know what planet either of you have been on.

krayzewolf New Hampshire
06/02/14 1:47 pm

Ok, how do you define conservatism?

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 3:22 pm

Low taxes, massive military spending, deregulation of the economy, slashing to social programs

krayzewolf New Hampshire
06/02/14 3:40 pm

Ah, well, aside from the massive military spending (in practice, this should also be cut), sure, I'll go along with that.

But, how low are our taxes, how many programs have been cut, and what regulations have been cut?

krayzewolf New Hampshire
06/02/14 3:42 pm

This is why I initially disagreed with you and still stand by my statement. We have not practiced conservatism in decades. Our national debt is a perfect example of our non conservation. ;)

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 3:43 pm

We have the lowest tax rates in over 70 years. We used to have a top rate of over 90 percent in 1950s, has decreased since then to 35. With the exception of Clinton, no increases. NAFTA, CAFTA, reversal of Glass-Stegall.

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 3:44 pm

Clinton welfare reform slashed spending, Obama plans to cut over 700 billion dollars going to Medicare, etc.

rynefrompf Kingsport, TN
06/02/14 3:45 pm

Taxes are going to go back to the Clinton-era rates for top earners but that's it. Mostly cuts.

Arananthi Literal Ninja
06/02/14 3:51 pm

No doubt, right? How completely hooked into the right-wing media machine to you have to be to not realize that the conservative agenda has been enacted by virtually every president since Reagan was elected, with the partial exception of Clinton?

krayzewolf New Hampshire
06/02/14 3:57 pm

Ryne, I'll give Clinton credit for getting out of the way and allowing the tech boom to happen, but Obama plans...LOL, Obama actually created more debt under his watch than Bush Jr. Seriously, we've been going down a bad road since Carter.

RBecker17 The Sultan of Rum
06/04/14 9:40 am

Sorry but let me just chime in. First off the 1950s tax rates were an illusion the amount of loopholes ensured that the wealthy really only paid about 30% which is why in the 80s when Reagan closed loopholes and took the top rate down to 30% money

RBecker17 The Sultan of Rum
06/04/14 9:41 am

Wasn't lost in the budget. Second off taxes have never responsibly been cut. When Reagan cut them in the 80s he shortly after had to raise them again and the Bush raised them that's why he was rejected and so did Clinton. Bush jr cut and then we had

RBecker17 The Sultan of Rum
06/04/14 9:42 am

A massive deficit so he raised them as well. Obama reciprocated. Overall spending has never gone down even under Clinton who achieved his balanced budget using tax hikes.

DGroot America
06/02/14 10:29 am

Not necessarily just conservative policies. Both sides are guilt of crony capitalism.

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Arananthi Literal Ninja
06/02/14 3:52 pm

Just because a Democrat enacted a policy doesn't make it automatically NOT a conservative policy. Obama has been enacting moderately conservative policies off and on for his entire Presidency, thinking (foolishly) that he could win support -- at all.