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CalTexHawk June 1st, 2014 10:07pm

The Cincinnati Archdiocese has added clauses to it's teacher contract that ban teachers from using in-vitro fertilization or cohabitation. Even non-Catholic teachers are required to sign (details in link). Do you support such employment requirements?

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duey in a fools paradise
06/02/14 6:42 pm

I think they have every right to hire like minded people. The Catholic Church learned a lesson when the Obama DOJ sued them to provide non Catholics birth control under their HC system. Those people aren't being forced to work there.

ScrewU Gone
06/02/14 3:31 pm

An employer can demand anything they want as a condition of employment. I had to sign a nonsmoking agreement, which they have just to keep health care costs down.

CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/02/14 6:24 pm

Would something that does not impact your health, like supporting a certain cause, be reasonable? What about use of birth control. How could a condom possibly impact your productivity at work?

ScrewU Gone
06/03/14 3:11 am

They don't have to justify it. If you don't like it, get a job somewhere else.

CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/03/14 4:21 am

Ah, but they did have to justify it in a federal court...and lost.

ScrewU Gone
06/03/14 4:38 am

Are you confusing the ACA mandate with an employee agreement?

CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/03/14 5:03 pm

No. I would think that'd be obvious if you had read the linked article. Did you?

madeit Houston Area
06/01/14 10:18 pm

If you want to teach at a Catholic school, you should be willing to uphold its values; if you don't, there are plenty of other schools at which to teach.

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CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/02/14 6:24 pm

Several in Iran for example.

duey in a fools paradise
06/02/14 6:43 pm

Only if you are Muslim otherwise they will stone you to death. Got another example Caltex?

CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/02/14 6:52 pm

I don't need any, you just made my point for me.

duey in a fools paradise
06/02/14 6:55 pm

So you are anti religious? And trying to show what a bunch of hypocrites all Christians are because in your eyes they are like Muslims? Ok got it!

CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/02/14 7:33 pm

Wow, that was a reach even for you. No I am not anti religious. I do not think that any employer, religious or non-religious, should be abel to fire an employee without cause, which is effectively what the Archdiocese is doing in Cinnci.

CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/02/14 7:33 pm

No different than the gov't getting into your private life.

CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/02/14 7:36 pm

Keep in mind that one employee has already won a federal suite. She had been fired for using in-vitro fertilization.

duey in a fools paradise
06/02/14 7:37 pm

I think the Obama suit brought this all on. So now they will hire like minded people. This is what out of control government looks and feels like.

DavesNotHere where am I
06/01/14 7:25 pm

They're in the wrong country. Iran would like their ways.

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citethesource Socialist and Atheist
06/01/14 6:10 pm

At a religious school? Yes.

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CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/01/14 7:35 pm

If no one knew that a teacher used in-vitro fertilization, why should it matter?

citethesource Socialist and Atheist
06/01/14 10:48 pm

It shouldn't. Religious schools have some insane rules. I have no idea why someone would work there, or send their kids there.

But that doesn't mean they aren't allowed to require it as a religious school.

2katz I live in Nebraska
06/01/14 5:33 pm

While I support an employers right to make their own policies and hire/fire as they want, I'm vehemently against an employer (unrelated to national security) having any reason to know about or direct employees' lives.

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susanr Colorado
06/01/14 4:50 pm

Cincinnati? Oh, hell. They really did a number on a good friend & colleague of mine, when she wanted to get remarried. She divorced her 1st husband because he turned out to be a pedophile (& wast sent to prison). She's a *compassionate* person,

susanr Colorado
06/01/14 4:51 pm

and, thinking she was being a good Christian, visited him in prison. Not with any romantic feelings, just as a human being... a *Catholic.* Apparently that was the wrong thing to do. (WWJD?) They also said she didn't know her fiancé well enough

susanr Colorado
06/01/14 4:54 pm

(her 2nd husband of about 7 years now) because she clearly hadn't known the 1st one well, so they wanted her to wait *years* before marrying. She had known the 1st one since they were children. She's such a *good* person; I wanted to punch them.

susanr Colorado
06/01/14 4:48 pm

No. I don't see how micromanaging the personal lives of employees is any business of an employer.

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fredd TrumpLand
06/01/14 3:44 pm

No employer should be allowed to regulate the private lives of their employees.

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redsox95 New England
06/01/14 3:57 pm

The US Department of Defense?

usernamehere Raise a little hell
06/01/14 3:44 pm

No, but it's their right. And I can't exactly see it being enforced.

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CalTexHawk spiral arm
06/01/14 4:14 pm

It was "enforced" - the link article sites an example. The former employee filed a successful federal suite.

suppressedID I cant breathe
06/01/14 3:40 pm

I'm sure those morality clauses will work just as well on the teachers as they do on their congregations.

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