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Show Of Hands January 7th, 2013 12:00am

Should incandescent light bulbs be illegal?

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emily4444
01/15/13 8:09 pm

I am noticing that the people in warmer places (i.e. Texas, Florida, etc.) don't care or agree with the law. People in colder places (i.e. Washington, Maine, Michigan) like the amount of heat given off by the bulbs. This is a area issue, not a national one because of the different climates.

emily4444
01/15/13 7:58 pm

Really, Isaac? Really?

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susanr Colorado
01/15/13 12:30 pm

What happened to the reply to Jack that I'd swear was RIGHT HERE YESTERDAY, the one claiming methylmercury is in MMR vaccine & has adverse health effects& to which I replied? Do comments sometimes disappear? I'd swear it wasn't anywhere else.

isaac_kleiner
01/15/13 10:14 am

Article I, Section 8:

"The Congress shall have Power...To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"

The sale of light bulbs quite plainly falls under commerce.

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susanr Colorado
01/14/13 7:49 pm

...in SOME flu vaccine. There is no convincing evidence that ethylmercury causes adverse reactions in human except for very rare cases of allergy - essentially ZERO evidence that it causes autism. Ethylmercury was removed from childhood vaccines in 2001 and the rate of autism has gone UP, not down.

susanr Colorado
01/14/13 7:45 pm

The form of mercury that is used in some vaccines is not methylmercury. It is ethylmercury, which is handled by the body very differently than methylmercury. Methylmercury has NEVER been used in the MMR vaccines (or in varicella, IPV or pneumococcal conjugate vaccines). It is present...

Uberexciter Tennessee
01/14/13 12:27 am

In a way, the newer LED and CFL bulbs are cost preventative. The LED's that are dimmable cost upwards of $25 for a single bulb compared to less than a dollar for the old style. You just pay more for the bulb initially and hope it lasts long enough to save some money on the electricity usage.

susanr Colorado
01/13/13 2:49 pm

Nah, not everything. For example, elemental mercury does not. (It can cause neurological damage, though.) In my previous life, I studied the effects of mutagens/carcinogens on various genes in cells & mice. I'll be in CA in a couple weeks; I'll look for those placards. Missed them on previous trips.

chuqrs
01/13/13 2:43 pm

Everything today has something that causes cancer. Just live in California and look at all the placards posted in public places about "known carcinogens" why not include all those too? Why limit to just lightbulbs?

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chuqrs
01/13/13 2:42 pm

The government should focus on things like how to lower the deficit without cutting costs to school or military not a damn lightbulb! This is why we are in debt, the government is too big.

evoecon nearest binary system
01/13/13 7:05 am

Doors. Without doors, occupants could escape from fires faster. If it saves only one life it would be worth it. This is the Dem logic.

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sarah1911 Poolesville MD
01/13/13 2:46 am

My US household phased them out years ago. More expensive but each lasted years while incandescents lasted months. Scary gamble at 1st but has literally paid off. I agree with others who said make the cost of buying incandescent more than the others & people will probably voluntarily phase them out.

susanr Colorado
01/12/13 4:41 pm

And I've read stuff that says it's not that critical; you mostly have to be careful not to inhale mercury aerosol. Now I don't know what to believe. Did you read about anything toxic they contain other than mercury?

trip2
01/12/13 2:16 pm

The newer bulbs contain toxic material inside that poses a significant threat to one's health should the bulb break. I did some research on this, and read plenty of expert opinions stating that broken bulbs of this sort really need to be handled by someone who is hazmat trained.

EnginE3r Texas
01/11/13 7:39 am

What if someone creates a new beneficial use for incandescent lightbulbs that is very beneficial? That may not happen if they are illegal. Putting that aside, the mere idea that a light bulb could be declared illegal makes you wonder what home device the government might decide shouldn't exist.

dbalent
01/11/13 5:46 am

The poor people that the democrats are so concerned about cannot afford to pay taxes, buy health insurance or even pay for the very basic staples of life (food as on food stamps). Yet liberal logic holds that they can afford to outfit their homes with $60 light bulbs. Typical liberal logic!

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Romney225
01/10/13 10:23 pm

In our house the only lights that work r incandescent. The government can't tell us what to do in tiny things

magicman0316 Kenosha
01/10/13 9:27 pm

Talking about the methyl mercury they use to preserve the MMR vaccine that they inject directly into the bloodstreams of millions of kids a year.

gcoopdogg In a Mansion in My Head
01/10/13 12:51 pm

They shouldn't be illegal, but they should be prohibitively expensive so that the morons who care so little about our planet to waste SO MUCH power needlessly can't afford them!

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EnginE3r Texas
01/10/13 7:58 am

Every time a law is proposed to make something illegal, I like to think of what a law enforcement officer would be saying when arresting someone for breaking it and if it sounds stupid or ridiculous then it shouldn't be. "You are under arrest for possession/production of an incandescent bulb"

tabbser
01/09/13 9:54 pm

No, bit the government could impose taxes on the and tax breaks on led's in order to encourage people to switch to such an obviously better technology.

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susanr Colorado
01/09/13 7:52 pm

You wouldn't get Minamata disease, even if you have fish swimming around in your house & you ate them. It's caused by an organic form of mercury, methylmercury. You might get some neurological effects if you inhaled enough elemental mercury vapor. Points for knowing about Minamata, though!

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JackTorS SOH Flounder
01/09/13 6:31 pm

Hmm... Let's see.
Keep my incandescent bulbs that I never had a problem with, that gives off great light and won't poison me.
Or...
Buy these piss-poor lighting, twisty looking, expensive, government mandated bulbs that might give me Minamata disease if I break enough of them.
Yeah...

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FastFusion nj
01/09/13 6:21 pm

Only if Obama has Democrats with inside information investing in LED bulb manufacturing plants. Then of course it will be made illegal. Just look at the oil drilling rigs from our gulf sold to PetraBra (George Soros) when Obama stopped our deep well drilling. And then gave PetraBra 2 billion

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
01/09/13 6:13 am

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satguy08 California
01/09/13 5:02 am

The phase-out of incandescent light bulbs in 2005, and the European Union, Switzerland, and Australia started to phase them out in 2009. Likewise, other nations are implementing new energy standards or have scheduled phase-outs: Argentina, Russia, and Canada in 2012, and the U.S. in 2014.

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stephygurl Virginia
01/09/13 4:19 am

And while we are at it why don't we outlaw record players, 8 tracks, tape decks, box tvs, vcrs, flip phones, answering machines and the abacus for good measure.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
01/09/13 1:31 am

That, and the higher cost.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
01/09/13 1:31 am

The toxic mercury that's released by the CFL bulbs if they break tends to give people pause about buying them.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
01/09/13 1:29 am

No, and the fact that they're being phased out by law, rather than by the market, is despicable.

kn1gg iowa
01/08/13 10:56 pm

Where are you getting your information? 100% is completely impossible. And then, cfl doesn't emit uv radiation! Do you even know what uv stands for? Uv light is barely even ionizing. It won't penetrate through your body, and therefor can not cause cancer.

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xxclixxx Rhode Island
01/08/13 6:43 pm

you don't have to outlaw out dated technology.. its a waste of time and money to create the law and enforce it

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Mud Constitutionalist
01/08/13 5:54 pm

Again - let the market decide. If someone builds a better alternative, people will flock to to.

Enough of Big Brother, George Orwell!

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Think Lovin Life
01/08/13 5:20 pm

This question is not about the efficiency or cost effectiveness of replacements for the incandescent bulb.

The question is should the older bulbs be illegal. The answer is we do not need this. The bureaucrats that are dreaming up these ideas need to be the first ones fired. We can't afford this!

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susanr Colorado
01/08/13 2:05 pm

If Bush was a liberal, I'm even more depressed than I was about the Republican Party (which my very Republican parents & grandparents wouldn't even recognize any more).

leary Dulag Luft
01/08/13 12:36 pm

I believe it was a GOP rep that introduced the first bill and a GOP house that later failed a vote to repeal the legislation. Go figure.

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talkchap Talkeetna,AK
01/08/13 12:29 pm

The fact of it is that incandescent bulbs do release mercury into the air at the coal power plant. So by reducing the amount of power needed the amount of mercury going into the air goes down.

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JackTorS SOH Flounder
01/08/13 11:37 am

Talk about hyperbole.
Take some of your own advice.

cowboy Dog Lives Matter
01/08/13 11:33 am

Nobody wants a hazmat team in their home to clean up dangerous poison from a broken light bulb.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
01/08/13 10:16 am

coach my point is that every BTU released into my house as a byproduct of electrical consumption, whether heat from a light bulb, the refrigerator, TV, computer, wall-warts, etc, is a BTU I don't have to buy. The energy said to be "wasted" is released as heat, which isn't a waste at all.

coachgeorge95 Texas
01/08/13 9:25 am

Zod, since light requires more energy than heat, I would argue that your method is inefficient.

cowboy Dog Lives Matter
01/08/13 8:35 am

Mercury is poisonous in ANY amount. When did just a little poison become acceptable around children. You Liberals are really ignorant. Trade your own well being just to pretend to "save" the planet. More evidence that Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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ladyniner81 Embrace your inner dork
01/08/13 7:50 am

Get rid of those twirly ones. I hate those goddamn things. You can't see a friggin thing with those suckers..Fuck the environment I want to be able to see when I'm walking across a room, not worry if my klutzy butt gonna trip over a chair or something.

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Wink
01/08/13 6:50 am

Fourwinds: and if my incandescent bulb is broken, it doesn't really matter. I could smash them all day without fear of "tiny" amounts of toxic chemicals...and I paid less for it too.

ScrewU Gone
01/08/13 6:42 am

I'd like someone to point out where in the constitution we gave congress the power to outlaw light bulbs

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