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JustBob February 12th, 2014 1:55pm

Mom and dad have 50/50 custody of their 12 yo boy. During dad's time, they went and got matching batman tattoos, although legal in the state, mom is still heading off to court to relinquish custody from dad. You're the judge, does dad lose custody?

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Minyanko Tumblr
02/14/14 3:39 pm

No, but is that tattoo in a coverable place?

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/14/14 4:16 pm

Would a neck tattoo change the verdict?

Minyanko Tumblr
02/14/14 4:17 pm

Anything unable to be covered

icytoes the tepid north
02/13/14 9:48 pm

While getting a tattoo isn't inherently bad, putting one on your 12 year old is pretty poor judgement.

lindseybcamp
02/13/14 12:27 am

No custody because he never asked what the mother preferred for her own child. By the way, what state allows twelve year olds to get tattoos?

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commonsense America isnt racist
02/12/14 10:29 pm

Yes, the father should lose custody.

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musiman28 Cotton country
02/12/14 10:09 pm

Bonehead move, but I dot think he should lose custody. But I also think it should always be joint custody unless one parent is a danger to the child. Tattoo isn't dangerous, just stupid.

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
02/12/14 8:29 pm

It was only a temporary tattoo and it was a heart with the name, "Mom."

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Happy Hong Kong
02/12/14 8:27 pm

Probably a bad idea, but if a 12 year old can legally get a tattoo in that State then I don't see how you could revoke custody for this.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
02/12/14 8:26 pm

Nope. Mom may not like it, but she'd still have to deal with the same thing if they were married.

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jmw7477 Indiana
02/12/14 3:50 pm

I can't say it was a good idea. Dad should've discussed it with mom first. But I wouldn't take custody away from dad.

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cyanospool The Deep North
02/12/14 3:21 pm

I'd rule that the mom should lose custody.

missmorganmarie ...
02/12/14 2:45 pm

you people are crazy. of course he should lose custody!

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JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 5:16 pm

I was a tad surprised at the results too

Torfin Never Behind
02/12/14 11:19 am

Further more I order the removal of the tattoo at the expense of the father.

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canecorso Las Vegas Nv
02/12/14 11:09 am

I would have a problem with either parent allowing a child to do something so permanent without discussing it with the other parent.

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146787456777 .......
02/12/14 11:04 am

no, but getting your son a tattoo at 12 is stupid but in my opinion. What if when he gets to be 16 or 20 or 30 he doesn't like it anymore? he'll have to pay to either get it removed or done over. definitely not worth losing custody over,

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146787456777 .......
02/12/14 11:05 am

but probably a "what the hell were you thinking??????" talk

randolphus1 etown , ky
02/12/14 10:08 am

I think some of you actually belive dads have any rights in family court. Wrong. Dads have the right to pay child support and to whats leftover.

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TheMadScientist the mad laboratory
02/12/14 10:04 am

Dad can only have supervised visits.

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TopsQueen Oregon Coast
02/12/14 9:26 am

I would not remove from custody. I would ordered for the dad to pay for the removal of the tattoo. And if anything else like that happen again he would only have supervised visits.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
02/12/14 9:23 am

It's legal, it's fine, and mom needs to learn how to relax. Is she claiming the tattoo is on her half of the kid? If the tattoo is above the collarbone or on his hands, she *might* have a point, otherwise it's just a shared memory with his dad.

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sohail Michigan
02/12/14 8:48 am

Mom has no ground because it is legal but should give her courtesy call before getting the tattoos otherwise it is fine.

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Redacted
02/12/14 7:56 am

If its legal, mom has no grounds. I agree dad should have talked to mom before making an irreversible decision. I sorta see this the same as what if mom is vegan and dad isn't; does the kid still have to be vegan with dad?

missmorganmarie ...
02/12/14 2:54 pm

that is definitely not the same thing. at all.

MrMilkdud
02/12/14 7:53 am

Which version of batman was it? If it was the Val Kilmer version, that dad should be locked up.

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EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
02/12/14 8:47 am

^^So very very very much this!^^

madeit Houston Area
02/12/14 7:44 am

Nobody wins I'm divorce, least of all,the children.

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madeit Houston Area
02/12/14 7:45 am

in divorce

dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:46 am

Um, nobody wins when dad is an idiot.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:48 am

Nothing ambiguous about "till death do you part", so yes, divorce shouldn't be except if one spouse has a grave personality change and becomes abusive.

dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:54 am

I disagree. Lots of other reasons, cheating, drug addiction, etc. Glad you have high ideals but I'm guessing you haven't known many couples going through these things, or gone through it yourself. Til death do us part is a nice goal, for some.

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 8:03 am

There is always something ambiguous about till death do you part. When she cashes in the wife and mom gig to be hopped up on meth, whilst nailing the dealer. Some sad little attempt to regain youth, that's someone's last straw, and I don't blame him

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 8:06 am

I'd say if you don't accept that vow, don't take it. I won't.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 8:12 am

I wouldn't divorce unless my spouse would make my life hell or try to kill me.

dawl adulting
02/12/14 8:17 am

Praet everyone has their version of "hell", yours is just somewhere else on the spectrum.

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 8:20 am

Hmm, I'm not too sure if her banging the drug dealer fits that bill for you, or if it's just a quirk, some silly little imperfection that you must learn to look past in order to honor the vow.

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 8:22 am

Crap, I keep talking over Dawl, and saying the same damn thing, sorry Dawl :)

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 8:25 am

I'd blame the drug dealer for the problems, he'd be.... Oh well, I plead the fifth.

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 8:34 am

I am so confused as to what is right and wrong amongst people, but praying you don't ever have to test your theory

dawl adulting
02/12/14 8:44 am

Bob no worries i didn't even notice lol.
Praet if you can't take personal responsibility "blaming the dealer)" good luck in your marriage!
Very important factor in communication.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:32 am

What a beautiful display of love from Dad. Mom should be the one to lose custody for exposing the boy to having Dad dragged to court. What a vindictive b***tch.

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dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:40 am

That's a bit harsh. Do you have kids?

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:42 am

No, but I was one, and I would have loved my Dad to do this. However, not an issue, my parents stayed together for life, like parents should.

dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:45 am

As parents " should" - that's not true, some are far better off separating than keeping kids in a bitter resentful house.
Glad you had a good childhood, but I doubt your mom would have been ok with you getting a tattoo at age 12.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:46 am

She probably would, she was very permissive but I'll ask her on her next visit :(

dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:49 am

I'd be shocked if it was a yes at age 12. That's way too young to make that kind of decision.
Married or not, the mother in this scenario has every right to be pissed. It's not out of vindication, it's protecting your child.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:52 am

A tattoo isn't something major like a sex change, especially if it's just a small one, and it can be lasered away later, it's just some color.

dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:58 am

Again, painful and expensive and no teenager should have to deal with that b/c of his dad. "It's just some color" is missing the point entirely. This kid could resent his dad for a while b/c of this.

kbluebird Denial
02/12/14 7:24 am

Is it really possible that that could be legal?

kbluebird Denial
02/12/14 7:25 am

I can't even take my daughter to the US to visit her grandparents without a notarized letter from my husband.

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 8:27 am

Sure is, here in Colorado you have to have parental consent, and I'm with milk, aren't you in the US?

kbluebird Denial
02/12/14 9:26 pm

Nope, I'm in Canada. Born and raised in Florida.

kermie gaytopia
02/12/14 7:15 am

Not all but maybe lose some days, or be put on a probationary period.

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kermie gaytopia
02/12/14 7:21 am

Hopefully it would be a wake-up call for dad not to be so immature.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:36 am

As immature as love can be. Kudos @Dad.

dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:41 am

Love does not equal inking your son, it's painful also.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:43 am

I have a small tattoo, and that it's painful is a myth. It's no worse than a cat's scratch, a mild one.

dawl adulting
02/12/14 7:46 am

It's all relative, I've heard the opposite from most people.
Still way too young.

kermie gaytopia
02/12/14 7:57 am

Most love is immature, because what most people call love is just selfishness.

Emily33 North Carolina
02/12/14 7:13 am

Tattoo at 12? Wow. Won't that tattoo stretch out as he grows? It's not going to look as cool anymore.
Assuming he's still overall a good dad, I would say he still had custody. I could understand where the mom was coming from, though.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 7:45 am

Jealousy is what that woman is coming from.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
02/12/14 8:08 am

Of the tattoo as a symbol of father-son bonding.

Emily33 North Carolina
02/12/14 8:27 am

I can't imagine too many women would be jealous of that. That'd be too pissed the father let a 12 year old get a tattoo.

SarahD in your orbit
02/12/14 7:13 am

I've pretty much been in this exact situation many times. My parents hate each other so every time my dad did something my mom didn't approve of (like cutting my hair for example) there was a custody battle. IMO it's just pettiness of the mom.

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JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 7:17 am

I am very sorry to hear that, many couples talk about how cool they are going to be if they ever broke up, but that rarely happens, they end up vindictive and sadly the children become doe eyed little weapons

SarahD in your orbit
02/12/14 7:25 am

I'm 19 and have just now stopped being pulled between them. It's so tough. If I ever have kids (god I hope not lol) I will do whatever I can to never get divorced. I would definitely not want my children to go through what I went through.

SarahD in your orbit
02/12/14 7:26 am

That's actually a part of why I don't want children. The happiest of couples can have something go wrong. Even if you think you'll never fall out of love, you ultimately never know what the future holds.

canecorso Las Vegas Nv
02/12/14 11:03 am

Sarah it's not about not having something go wrong or falling out of love, it's selfishness. Make sure you and whomever you choose aren't selfish and these problems won't exist. My husband was able to co parent with his ex just fine.

ThePhlegm The Lone Star State
02/12/14 7:06 am

Although batman is cool, a 12 yo should not get a tattoo even if/when he is 100% sure he wants it. That is way to young to decide "forever" choices.

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chickencookie Jihad Joe
02/12/14 7:04 am

No. But he should have discussed this with mother. Also what kind of tattoo was it? Is it a small one that is not really noticeable? Is it a remembrance tat for grandpa? Is it a skull and crossbones one on his arm? Mother would and should be

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chickencookie Jihad Joe
02/12/14 7:05 am

Pissed but father should not lose custody as long as he treats and loves son in every other way which mom knows.

chickencookie Jihad Joe
02/12/14 7:18 am

He really should have told mother his plans but if he is s good father in every way and does not do stupid things like this every time he should not lose custody. Not enough. Isn't this illegal in most states? Sigh. Another justbob: milkdud ?

chickencookie Jihad Joe
02/12/14 8:55 am

You two are like twins :)

rons Thanks America
02/12/14 6:58 am

Yes, for just being a nerd! Batman! Geez!

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 7:03 am

Not fair, they flipped a coin and the boy won, if that coin came up tails, it would've been a naked chick and a dagger

JustBob Your anger fascinates me
02/12/14 7:06 am

But who knows, pending the results of this pesky court case, they have another appointment on Tuesday