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rebelfury76 February 10th, 2014 3:32pm

Is divorce immoral if you made a solemn vow of "until death do you part"?

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madeit Houston Area
02/10/14 9:02 pm

A vow is exactly that: a promise you seal with your life. If you can't make that promise, with no exceptions, please don't get married.

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musiman28 Cotton country
02/10/14 7:54 pm

I've actually had this conversation several times with people. You can tell people who's parents divorced a lot of times by how they react. I'm not a real religious person, but would really have a hard time justifying divorce after making that vow.

musiman28 Cotton country
02/10/14 7:56 pm

And I have been at a point where I was seriously considering divorce. It all worked out and we just had our 20th anniversary last month.

Calzone Bronx
02/10/14 5:18 pm

It's a cop-out for people who can't handle a commitment.

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cyanospool The Deep North
02/10/14 3:43 pm

I view it the same as any other con. You made an agreement in exchange for what the other person has to offer you, then you break the agreement. You conned that person. If you agreed to give someone $30 if they recite the alphabet backwards, . . .

cyanospool The Deep North
02/10/14 3:43 pm

. . . they do it and then you rescind your offer after the fact, that's cheating someone out of their money which is essentially a more complicated form of theft. Which is wrong.

cyanospool The Deep North
02/10/14 3:44 pm

Then again, this theoretically wouldn't apply to a mutual divorce, only one-sided. But even in mutual divorces, there's usually one person who suggests it before the other. There's still an initiator to a degree.

MisterE Conservistan
02/10/14 3:41 pm

Only if not all parties agree to the divorce.

skinner Jersey City
02/10/14 2:43 pm

Yes it is. Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary

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egglayer
02/10/14 1:09 pm

I don't know if "immoral" is the right word. I think that if you make that vow to someone, you should move heaven and earth to make it work and not divorce at the first sign of discord. However, if a person uses their spouse as a punching bag, vow

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egglayer
02/10/14 1:09 pm

or no vow, they should get out fast!

aj1545 Cat Lady
02/10/14 11:47 am

It's immoral if you consider breaking a vow to be immoral. Up to the people getting married to decide whether to include it. I think it's in there for tradition more than accuracy right now.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 11:54 am

Marriage IS a tradition. Don't get married then.

aj1545 Cat Lady
02/10/14 1:30 pm

There isn't one homogenous marriage that's tradition. There's your problem. It's very different depending on religion and somewhat different depending on denomination.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 3:40 pm

Pretty sure the life long overtones are consistent

vfabrizio613 Probably in my basement
02/10/14 11:46 am

Perhaps it causes the initial marriage itself to become immoral...

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
02/10/14 11:20 am

I don't have a negative opinion of divorce. It happens. If it is necessary for both parties to be happier, then so be it. Why stay in an unhappy situation

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mikeey1962 on SOH where else
02/10/14 10:56 am

You took a few words out of the whole, there's more to it then just the death part, love, honor, good, bad, it's these parts that make the whole.. Without them till death doesn't matter...

EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
02/10/14 10:55 am

I believe a third entity is created when two people are in a relationship. When they no longer are, I believe the entity is dead.

kspells TheOtherOtherside
02/10/14 10:44 am

The vows are to God too not just to each other.

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satiricalnick meh
02/10/14 10:43 am

Vows dont mean shit anymore unfortunately.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
02/10/14 9:56 am

Yes. I made it very clear to my wife that I'll never sign any divorce papers. And we're still happily together, imagine that.

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DunkinFrunk Austin area, Texas
02/10/14 9:23 am

I think it is immoral to stay with someone that you truly don't want to be with strictly out of some outdated moral code. Get a divorce if it will make you happier. No one should live in a unhappy union.

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 9:55 am

Then don't get married.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 9:56 am

Can I walk away from my military obligations? After all it's just some outdated moral code.

DunkinFrunk Austin area, Texas
02/10/14 11:20 am

I got divorced. I'd do it again if another woman cheated on me. You can take your "Till death do us part" B.S. and shove it. I'm not staying with any woman that I don't want to be with.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 11:55 am

Not trying to piss you off but I take vows and oaths seriously. Just how I am.

DunkinFrunk Austin area, Texas
02/10/14 12:01 pm

Whatever. I'm not going to stay with any woman I can't or don't trust.

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
02/10/14 1:20 pm

BIKE - biblically, that's the only reason one can morally divorce. You're fine.

REB - If you want out of the military, you can get out anytime you wish. Might not be an honorable, but you can absolutely get out. It's not hard at all.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 3:41 pm

Not necessarily. The UCMJ is pretty clear on the issue. I'm not eager enough to just walk away I was using it as an example of keeping ones word on a commitment

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
02/10/14 3:44 pm

Rebel - get fat, start smoking, fail 2 PT tests and you're out with a general all in 3-4 mos. Saw several guys/girls do this when I was in during Desert Shield/Storm.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 5:44 pm

To me that's the same as walking away. I honor my committments

MrLove lovers, dreamers and me
02/10/14 9:13 am

It's as immoral as homosexuality according to the bible.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
02/10/14 9:57 am

And it greatly saddens me that so many Christians divorce and remarry someone else like it's no biggie.

aj1545 Cat Lady
02/10/14 11:46 am

@pinky- You're consistent, Ill give you that.

MrLove lovers, dreamers and me
02/10/14 1:24 pm

It doesn't bother you when non-xtians do it, just like non-xtian homosexuals don't bother you.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
02/10/14 5:47 pm

It still bothers me. But Christians should know better.

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
02/10/14 9:05 am

It depends on the situation is someone has committed adultery and wants a divorce status tomorrow is someone hits their spouse yourself six freedom the one that does the beating is a moron < typo. Immoral Sometimes people just don't get along

bluerum29 optimistic idealist
02/10/14 8:54 am

People make mistakes. Sometimes the marriage was good for them at one point, but later on better for both to seperate.

Whichendisup uniquely unoriginal
02/10/14 8:53 am

getting a divorce dies not mean you didn't meant the commitment when you said it. why is this the only/one of the few promises that some people are so concerned about upholding?

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EarlyBird Portland
02/10/14 8:44 am

Yeah, they need to change that line.

jmw7477 Indiana
02/10/14 8:43 am

It depends on the situation. Abuse, frequent infidelity, etc. are exceptions to breaking that vow. Marriage takes work, but it's worth it.

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rons Thanks America
02/10/14 8:40 am

Your condemned to hell for eternity! Then again you might be living in hell!

NDAmerican Florida
02/10/14 8:38 am

Yes, you broke a promise, should've meant it or shouldn't have married.

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Redacted
02/10/14 8:37 am

Did we stipulate whose death? 'Our love died, so we got divorced.' I do think people should be more thoughtful before getting married.

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suppressedID suck it Kyle
02/10/14 8:37 am

Kill her before you divorcee her?

Got it.

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Liberty 4,032,064
02/10/14 8:35 am

Yes. It's breaking a vow/promise.
If you didn't mean it, you shouldn't have said it.

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
02/10/14 9:57 am

That's how I feel about it, and why I'm one of the few of my former high school posse still single, two of the guys already have ex wives and aren't even in their thirties.

Liberty 4,032,064
02/10/14 12:16 pm

That's pathetic. I'm married but most of my peers genuinely are not mature enough to make that decision or commitment, or just haven't met the right person yet.

Liberty 4,032,064
02/10/14 12:16 pm

The problem is two-fold: Not enough reverence and seriousness on the front end; not enough diligence, persistence, and commitment on the back end.