Is divorce immoral if you made a solemn vow of "until death do you part"?
A vow is exactly that: a promise you seal with your life. If you can't make that promise, with no exceptions, please don't get married.
Divorce is like death so......
I've actually had this conversation several times with people. You can tell people who's parents divorced a lot of times by how they react. I'm not a real religious person, but would really have a hard time justifying divorce after making that vow.
And I have been at a point where I was seriously considering divorce. It all worked out and we just had our 20th anniversary last month.
It's a cop-out for people who can't handle a commitment.
I view it the same as any other con. You made an agreement in exchange for what the other person has to offer you, then you break the agreement. You conned that person. If you agreed to give someone $30 if they recite the alphabet backwards, . . .
. . . they do it and then you rescind your offer after the fact, that's cheating someone out of their money which is essentially a more complicated form of theft. Which is wrong.
Then again, this theoretically wouldn't apply to a mutual divorce, only one-sided. But even in mutual divorces, there's usually one person who suggests it before the other. There's still an initiator to a degree.
Only if not all parties agree to the divorce.
Yes it is. Unfortunately it is sometimes necessary
I don't know if "immoral" is the right word. I think that if you make that vow to someone, you should move heaven and earth to make it work and not divorce at the first sign of discord. However, if a person uses their spouse as a punching bag, vow
or no vow, they should get out fast!
It's immoral if you consider breaking a vow to be immoral. Up to the people getting married to decide whether to include it. I think it's in there for tradition more than accuracy right now.
Marriage IS a tradition. Don't get married then.
There isn't one homogenous marriage that's tradition. There's your problem. It's very different depending on religion and somewhat different depending on denomination.
Pretty sure the life long overtones are consistent
Perhaps it causes the initial marriage itself to become immoral...
I don't have a negative opinion of divorce. It happens. If it is necessary for both parties to be happier, then so be it. Why stay in an unhappy situation
You took a few words out of the whole, there's more to it then just the death part, love, honor, good, bad, it's these parts that make the whole.. Without them till death doesn't matter...
I believe a third entity is created when two people are in a relationship. When they no longer are, I believe the entity is dead.
The vows are to God too not just to each other.
Vows dont mean shit anymore unfortunately.
Yes. I made it very clear to my wife that I'll never sign any divorce papers. And we're still happily together, imagine that.
I think it is immoral to stay with someone that you truly don't want to be with strictly out of some outdated moral code. Get a divorce if it will make you happier. No one should live in a unhappy union.
Then don't get married.
Can I walk away from my military obligations? After all it's just some outdated moral code.
I got divorced. I'd do it again if another woman cheated on me. You can take your "Till death do us part" B.S. and shove it. I'm not staying with any woman that I don't want to be with.
Not trying to piss you off but I take vows and oaths seriously. Just how I am.
Whatever. I'm not going to stay with any woman I can't or don't trust.
BIKE - biblically, that's the only reason one can morally divorce. You're fine.
REB - If you want out of the military, you can get out anytime you wish. Might not be an honorable, but you can absolutely get out. It's not hard at all.
Not necessarily. The UCMJ is pretty clear on the issue. I'm not eager enough to just walk away I was using it as an example of keeping ones word on a commitment
Rebel - get fat, start smoking, fail 2 PT tests and you're out with a general all in 3-4 mos. Saw several guys/girls do this when I was in during Desert Shield/Storm.
To me that's the same as walking away. I honor my committments
It's as immoral as homosexuality according to the bible.
And it greatly saddens me that so many Christians divorce and remarry someone else like it's no biggie.
@pinky- You're consistent, Ill give you that.
It doesn't bother you when non-xtians do it, just like non-xtian homosexuals don't bother you.
It still bothers me. But Christians should know better.
It depends on the situation is someone has committed adultery and wants a divorce status tomorrow is someone hits their spouse yourself six freedom the one that does the beating is a moron < typo. Immoral Sometimes people just don't get along
that I would say it is not.
People make mistakes. Sometimes the marriage was good for them at one point, but later on better for both to seperate.
getting a divorce dies not mean you didn't meant the commitment when you said it. why is this the only/one of the few promises that some people are so concerned about upholding?
Yeah, they need to change that line.
It depends on the situation. Abuse, frequent infidelity, etc. are exceptions to breaking that vow. Marriage takes work, but it's worth it.
Your condemned to hell for eternity! Then again you might be living in hell!
Yes, you broke a promise, should've meant it or shouldn't have married.
Did we stipulate whose death? 'Our love died, so we got divorced.' I do think people should be more thoughtful before getting married.
Kill her before you divorcee her?
Yes. It's breaking a vow/promise.
If you didn't mean it, you shouldn't have said it.
That's how I feel about it, and why I'm one of the few of my former high school posse still single, two of the guys already have ex wives and aren't even in their thirties.
That's pathetic. I'm married but most of my peers genuinely are not mature enough to make that decision or commitment, or just haven't met the right person yet.
The problem is two-fold: Not enough reverence and seriousness on the front end; not enough diligence, persistence, and commitment on the back end.