Is heterosexual marriage a right?
you are right. I apologize. maybe you should enter these conversations a bit sooner
No worries. Here to help :-) and I'm sorry if I came across as rude
you didn't, I am just typically a strong willed person and often need someone to tell me to cool down
But exclusively heterosexual
Yes. God would not have instituted heterosexual marriage if he had not given us the right to be married.
But is it really a right?
Can anyone take it away? No. Then it must be a right.
Good thought. Life is also a God-given right and thousands of abortions are committed each day. I like your thinking, though.
a right that is removed initially immoraly. if we go with that process we have no rights but our thoughts and beliefs
I wouldn't say it's a right Tom. I would say, if Christianity be true, it's a privileged gift allowed by God, like a drivers license almost.
it's what God intended for us at Creation, how is that like a driver's license?
I'm hardly saying it isn't what He intended. But that it is a responsibility alongside the fun and beauty. A responsibility that is privileged to us by God. I can't demand if God to let me marry someone. I can honor the plan He has fir me but I
Cannot demand it like I can with rights. I can demand as a us citizen my right to a trial by jury but with God the idea of rights takes on a different meaning
true, so maybe a gift instead of right? drivers license still doesn't quite fit
Your right. Not a great example but close enough fir out purposes . :-) how've you been this week?
Dom, you're absolutely right.
natural right. why wouldn't it be????
I would consider it a privilege.
Just like driving. :)
what makes it a privilege, rather than a right?
Omgoodness look up haha. Said the same thing. And Sadewt: what makes it a right? God instituted it, it is a responsibility aswell as a gift. Like a gun or a car, yes it's fun! It's awesome! But it also needs careful handling, maintenance, allowance
Of the father giving the marriage (car, gun)
Ok, great analogies, you've managed to convince me. :)
Sweet!!!!! How are ya Amiga :-)
lol, I'm good. you know I'm a guy right?
:-O......my bad dude...........I'm mortified.....sorry
I have had that happen to me. I'm so sorry lol.
lol, it's ok. with no profile pic you had no way of knowing. I'll try to type more masculinely in the future
Lol ok haha
No marriage is a right. If the government can dictate who gets to, and can take it away just as well that doesn't seem like a right to me. Marriage doesn't affect how much I love my family, nor does it keep all couples monogamous.
I understand it being a tax benefit to offset how expensive having a family can be, but still does seem like a right to me.
I disagree with the tax benefits. I don't think marriage or kids should get you tax breaks. If anything people who have kids should pay more in taxes since they contribute more to the money government has to spend
Marriage is a right for all consenting humans. It's not just heterosexuals.
Oh gosh you did it again
Who says, Mr. L?
Who says it's strictly for heterosexuals? Aside from a religious standpoint.
The unity is based out of love, or some other perceived benefit from a union, and shouldn't be arbitrarily given to one group just because they have different sexual organs.
I don't think the Bible says that heterosexual marriage is a right. Which is why I'm asking.
I view it as a provision under the natural right of liberty. I do not think anyone should have benefits given to them just because they're married, but I think it should be recognized under the law and protected.
Yes. Marriage for homosexualities should be a right as well.
Where did this so-called "right" come from?
Where did this so called "right" for heterosexuals come in?
I don't recall that it did. Is it a right?
Most definitely, but not homosexual.
It should be though
No, it shouldn't.
Yes, it should.
I don't believe that either are rights.
Should homosexuality be legal? (The marriage of two homosexuals, I mean.)
I don't believe so, but if it does become legal, they shouldn't have (yet another "right") to force a godly pastor to marry them or force a business to bake them a wedding cake, for example.
homosexuality is hateful to God. it should NEVER be legalized
Comments like that are hateful to God.
I can give biblical support, can you?
Actually, God said that homosexuality is "detestable." He didn't say the people are. Also, God said "woe to them that call evil good and good evil."
I haven't actually read the entire bible
You don't need to to know what God says about same sex "marriage." We know that God never changes, so when He said that the actions are "detestable" in Leviticus 18:23, we know that He meant what He said.
absolutely, rocker. that's what I said. God still loves the person, even though they are committing a sin detestable to him. that was actually the main problem with Sodom and Gomorrah, which he destroyed for their sin, btw
And this is why homosexuals and athiests call us biggots. Could have been handled a better way guys.
how? paint evil with a black brush, this is reality. I don't like it, but that's why I'm not God
We are to do everything in love, especially when telling others about our doctrine. How does it convince people we are correct? That's why we describe it in love. I didn't see that.
And all of us are evil. We are all sinful and evil, the difference is we are forgiven and changed in Christ.
like I said, God loves the person but hates their sin. our job isn't to convince people, d0m. it's to inform them and let God work in their lives. if he chooses us to do that, great. but WE can't change anybody
We can't change people and Hid does the work, but our arguments should be coherent. The Gospel is insulting enough. We shouldn't make it more so to people. Christ brings the change but as servants we should strive to do our best.
Christ spoke the truth but He did so in love, like the woman at the well, He did not call her evil or detestable, He said what she did was wrong but offered her living water. Anytime we denounce something as wrong, we must connect it to the love of
Christ or else it is vanity, it does nothing but harden the person heart more often then not, in my own experience
Yes it's right for heterosexuals while gay marriage is right for gays. as long as the couple want to be together why would marriage be wrong?
because heterosexuality is a sin?