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Skarface February 7th, 2014 4:46am

Many of the fundamental inequalities between men and women in America stem from our conservative/prudish society making sex taboo, and therefore making depraved men treat women more like things than people.

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jmw7477 Indiana
02/07/14 6:14 am

The sex industry is the only one where women make more than men.

skinner Jersey City
02/07/14 4:47 am

I think we have the opposite problem

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Skarface Banned
02/07/14 6:48 am

Really? We were at the height of sexual conservatism during the Middle Ages, and women were kind of treated like shit. You know that, right?

skinner Jersey City
02/07/14 12:54 pm

I'm not calling for a repeat of the same social conditions as the Middle Ages

Mattwall1
02/08/14 9:35 am

while I didn't think you were if I may ask, what are you calling for then?

skinner Jersey City
02/08/14 1:32 pm

When marriage rates are shrinking, calls for the legalization of things like prostitution are rising, and 1/6 American women have been the victims of an attempted or completed rape I believe it becomes pretty clear that our society needs to become

skinner Jersey City
02/08/14 1:33 pm

More constrained and objectively moral, especially in regards to sex.

Skarface Banned
02/09/14 10:43 am

What's wrong with prostitution?

HayleyS looking up.
02/06/14 10:02 pm

I think that is part of the problem.

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HayleyS looking up.
02/06/14 10:08 pm

msmagazine.com/blog/2013/05/24/what-do-dress-codes-say-about-girls-bodies/


This question made me think of this article which is somewhat related lol

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:13 pm

That article raises a very interesting point. Obviously, as a non-woman, I can't possibly know how it feels to be a woman, but I certainly agree that school rules are often weirdly specific and regulatory of female clothing while barely containing

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:15 pm

anything that specifically pertains to males. I feel like such byzantine dress codes most likely do originate in our conservative history as a nation, and I'm surprised that we are still so much so that way.

JennaF sunflower state of mind
02/06/14 9:48 pm

So you really think if we were more open about sex, men would quit objectifying women?

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Skarface Banned
02/06/14 9:51 pm

It wouldn't stop, but it would help. I'm in one of the most prudish areas of the country, and I'm legitimately horrified about how people talk about women, rape, etc. I never saw anything remotely this sick when I lived in a more liberal/open area.

citethesource Socialist and Atheist
02/06/14 9:58 pm

When women are allowed to own their sexuality and not have it thrust upon them by men, yes.

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:01 pm

I've heard hicks say "I would rape her" without a single hint of anything in their voice but sincerity. I've also heard someone say that if they could travel to any time period, they'd go back to when men could pay a girl's dad 30 pieces of silver

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:01 pm

for permission to rape her. Frankly, it's fûcking frightening.

JennaF sunflower state of mind
02/06/14 10:14 pm

That is truly sickening. I can't believe there's people like that think like that. Why do you think being more open about sex would help? I would say stuff like this stems from a backwards notion that women are inferior and that's what needs to be

JennaF sunflower state of mind
02/06/14 10:14 pm

Dealt with, in my opinion.

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:17 pm

Where I'm from, we learn that sexual desire is evil, and we shouldn't have any kind of sexual relations until we're married. As a teenage male, if you're unable to release certain types of energy, it eventually builds up into aggression, which can

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:19 pm

end up quite poorly for anyone on the receiving end of that aggression. My friends tend to see women as sex things before they see them as people for this very reason, and I can only imagine that this mindset is also seen in other parts of America

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:21 pm

that have similar cultural taboos on sexual activity. It's for this same reason that countries where porn is banned have such a prevalence of rape.

HayleyS looking up.
02/06/14 10:28 pm

Not only that, but some women respond to this by using their sexuality as a way of obtaining power.. Women are extremely objectified in the media as sex objects in a way that men just aren't.

Watch this if you can: youtu.be/u_4dPB9MVS8

JennaF sunflower state of mind
02/06/14 10:28 pm

Do you think what you're seeing could be because you go to a Christian school? Obviously, no sex before marriage is only taught at religious schools. I mean, I live in Kansas, which is at least as conservative as Indiana and I don't hear those

HayleyS looking up.
02/06/14 10:29 pm

Some other women respond to it by meaning ashamed of their sexuality... And they end up being conflicted about what they want. Many will send guys mixed signals.. That's not cool either.

JennaF sunflower state of mind
02/06/14 10:36 pm

I agree completely, Hayley. What's even more frustrating is when women gladly give into this objectification instead of demanding to be respected and treated equally by their male peers. It's so aggravating when people like Beyoncé who are

JennaF sunflower state of mind
02/06/14 10:37 pm

Clearly talented on their own and in no need of objectifying themselves to get ahead give in to what is expected of women.

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:53 pm

Even in public school, we had abstinence-only sex ed, and the majority of people frowned upon any kind of openness.

Skarface Banned
02/06/14 10:57 pm

I think that abandoning the sexual taboos in place in our society would do a lot to equalize the genders.