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Jeninerd February 3rd, 2014 5:27pm

As of 8:24 AKST, a Show of Hands poll revealed that 51 percent of males and only 15 percent of females had been in a fist fight. Do you think this gender gap is greater influenced by social factors or genetic differences?

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MrWolfe Nashville
02/03/14 7:58 pm

More genetic than societal, even though both influences are there. Biology & evolution, etc

think4yourself Not a safe space
02/03/14 7:02 pm

Because the question said fist fight not cat fight. If Tony had asked who had been in a cat fight you would get different results.

Wackacrat Harford County
02/03/14 6:33 pm

Guys measure up to each other. Girls tend to be more passive aggressive in their disputes.

HotelCompany sight picture
02/03/14 5:12 pm

Genetic. Boys and girls are different and not just in the plumbing.

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catpillow Florida West Coast
02/03/14 3:19 pm

Both. Genetic women simply aren't strong enough to do well in a fist fight, and social because it's not ladylike to fight.

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 4:59 pm

Plenty of women are skilled at fighting.

catpillow Florida West Coast
02/03/14 5:45 pm

Agreed, plenty are. Still I don't think most of us are. I'm certainly not.

Alkan
02/03/14 3:05 pm

Genetic. Men have always been the ones starting conflicts. From super powers starting wars against each other all the way back to caveman times.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 1:32 pm

In nature the male is always more aggressive. It's not just humans.

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146787456777 .......
02/03/14 5:24 pm

while male animals may socially fight more the females in nature will kill quicker and are far more brutal as a general rule; from mammals to birds to reptiles to arachnids. That's where "the female is more deadly than the male" saying comes from

Wes28 CBus
02/03/14 1:27 pm

Men are naturally more aggressive. Hence why males have always been the hunters and the ones who go to wars. This is thousands of years of evolution at work!

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
02/03/14 1:04 pm

Men and women are different by nature. Nurture emphasizes the differences, but the differences exist by nature.

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commonsense Read another book
02/03/14 12:44 pm

Men are more aggressive. It's genetic.

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Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 4:51 pm

I agree, but I asked about the greater influence.

s4mm1 WVU
02/03/14 12:02 pm

Men and woman think differently. Men are more aggressive, thanks to more testosterone. There's not anything social about that.

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cowboy All Lives Matter
02/03/14 11:41 am

Gender. That's why the Liberals have drugged American males.

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Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 12:03 pm

Um. What.

GrandmaALiCE
02/03/14 4:25 pm

He means medications like Ritalin for ADHD. He's said it before, Jeni.

*sigh*

cowboy All Lives Matter
02/03/14 4:30 pm

I've said it because it's true. They are very dangerous drugs that are completely unnecessary.

GrandmaALiCE
02/03/14 4:33 pm

That may be true. But, it has nothing to do with liberals. That's just plain silly.

GrandmaALiCE
02/03/14 4:34 pm

Or with males, for that matter. There are several girls in my family who have had this prescribed.

cowboy All Lives Matter
02/03/14 4:47 pm

Lol grandma! Who else would want to dull the American male down a few notches?

cowboy All Lives Matter
02/03/14 4:48 pm

It's dangerous for both genders, but American makes scare Liberals. They don't want to compete so they level the playing field. But don't do drugs kids! Lol!

cowboy All Lives Matter
02/03/14 4:48 pm

*American males..

timeout Boston Strong
02/03/14 11:40 am

Mostly social, guy just like to get into it more, but I've seen some pretty good cat fights.

38041 Georgia
02/03/14 11:39 am

Funny. In my 9 years teaching, I can remember maybe one or two fight involving guys. The vast majority of fights involve girls, at least among teens at school. I guess guys wait until they are off-campus.

bethanyq Ess Eff
02/03/14 11:35 am

On the fighting question, there may legitimately be some biological explanation in that women's bodies have a harder time turning protein into muscle. That said, even there there is a lot of cultural influence (e.g., no fighting "below the belt" even

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bethanyq Ess Eff
02/03/14 11:36 am

though this would give women a significant advantage).

Not to mention, the physical differences wouldn't explain why men are more likely to fight other men, who have the same biological advantages and disadvantages. So, still largely cultural.

ozzy
02/03/14 11:33 am

If you asked what were they fighting for. It would be 51% over women and only 15% cuz of men

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
02/03/14 11:21 am

In grade school I was one of the bullied ones. Another girl hit me. I did not hit back. But I finally grabbed hold of her arms with my nails. But I said yes.

bethanyq Ess Eff
02/03/14 11:50 am

Every time I hear someone use the word "females" as a noun like this, I can't help but think of this:

youtu.be/Z4gtPUP5H6o?t=1m34s

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/03/14 11:08 am

Social because ladies don't fight. Ya know the classy kind that had mommas who care. The women who fight are just...it's social. I was taught not to fight.

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MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 10:50 am

Guys are naturally more aggressive it is how it has always been it's not something we are just taught or socially acceptable

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Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 11:38 am

I disagree. I think we teach socially that physical aggression is a masculine trait, whether it is fighting or contact sports.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 11:42 am

Look at history. Men have always been the aggressors

HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 11:54 am

Saying men have always been the aggressors isn't evidence of it being natural... History definitely shows that we have always treated the two genders very differently.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 11:58 am

But it shows it isn't just a social thing today

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 12:02 pm

I never said it was exclusively social, just predominantly social. I think the gap would be smaller if we didn't permeate society with these artificial concepts of "masculinity" and "femininity." Boys are even expected play with army dolls and

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 12:03 pm

superheroes and encouraged to participate in contact sports much more than women.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 12:05 pm

And this gender gap has existed forever which leads me to believe it isn't just society's influence

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 12:06 pm

Actually if anything the gender gap today is lower than that of many years ago

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 12:08 pm

Actually, it hasn't existed forever. Anthropologists have revealed that humans had very similar divisions of labor amongst early hunter-gatherer societies. Gender roles actually correlate closely with the development of religion and agriculture.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 12:19 pm

The only time in which is it speculated is pre history times of hunting gathering,

Jeninerd Hoth, AK
02/03/14 1:16 pm

Which is when humans were most separated from social constructs, indicating our biological differences are likely minimal, when compared to the gender differences of modern American society....

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 1:27 pm

No because anything in this time period is speculation. They do not know exactly who did the hunting and who did the gathering but they do know the mother was always in charge of watching the kids

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 1:34 pm

When it comes to animals the male is generally the more aggressive.

pcox104 Florida
02/03/14 10:47 am

For me - it's both. I grew up watching wrestling and wrestled with my brother on my parent's bed. But I also love physical endeavors naturally. My body wakes up and I'm just peaceful. I try to play fight with my gf and she hates it.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
02/03/14 10:43 am

We didn't ask how many boys had been beaten up by a girl as kids, but I'd bet it's a lot. You learn to respect the power of crazy at a young age. Social.

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kermie gaytopia
02/03/14 10:40 am

Social. We don't teach our young men any other way of resolving conflict. In fact we praise them being "manly"--i.e. fighting. And then we wonder why our prison system is the largest in the world...

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bethanyq Ess Eff
02/03/14 11:41 am

Yup, and even worse than being unmanly, a boy/man who refuses to fight might even be labeled, insult of all insults, a "girl." Shudder.

suppressedID I cant breathe
02/03/14 10:32 am

In fairness, guys are more aggressive by both genetics and conditioning, but the fights I've seen with women are FAR more vicious.

I think it's like nature: males put on the more frequent show for social reasons; females kill.

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sojourner present
02/03/14 10:40 am

You got that right - don't mess with Mama Bear! I will take you out!
But most of the time I'd rather have fun, be nice and avoid violence altogether.

bethanyq Ess Eff
02/03/14 11:39 am

If men are fighting to put on a show for social reasons, doesn't that mean it's cultural rather than natural?

suppressedID I cant breathe
02/03/14 11:48 am

Social reasons with a genetic impetus. Think of lions where the males organize the Prides but the females do the hunting. Both are crucial to overall survival.

bethanyq Ess Eff
02/03/14 11:52 am

Primate evolution is on a totally different branch from felines though.

suppressedID I cant breathe
02/03/14 11:54 am

Insert "Mountain Gorilla" and you have the same relationship.

bethanyq Ess Eff
02/03/14 12:17 pm

Why not bonobos? We're pretty closely related to them too.

SarahD in your orbit
02/03/14 10:32 am

Little boys are taught that if someone hits them, hit back. Little girls are taught that it's unladylike.

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EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
02/03/14 10:31 am

Speaking for myself, it's a bit of both. I was forces into many in second grade. It was not of my own accord, but of the older kids who were looking for entertainment.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/03/14 11:09 am

The Hunger Games of elementary school

EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
02/03/14 11:20 am

Basically, more accurately a dog fight. We didn't get weapons.