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EngrNate February 3rd, 2014 4:47am

"God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pain: it is his megaphone to rouse a deaf world." - C. S. Lewis

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curly
02/03/14 12:11 am

A very cool quote. C.S. Lewis has the best quotes. I've only read, "Mere Christianity." I've been meaning to read more.

Hey if you feel up for it, tell me your thoughts on the omnipotence of God here. No rush.

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 12:47 am

Ok: God IS omnipotent, is an inarguable statement. That said, we can't just declare that omnipotence means that God can do anything, even logically nonsensical things. We have to define the term in light of the teaching of Scripture.

The Bible...

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 12:54 am

...says in several places that "all things are possible with God," and that nothing is impossible for him. But it also says that there are things he can't do: he can't lie, he can't deny himself, he can't arbitrarily forgive sin.

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 12:55 am

C. S. Lewis wrote in The Problem of Pain"?:

" His Omnipotence means power to do all that is intrinsically possible, not to do the intrinsically impossible. You may attribute miracles to him, but not nonsense. This is no limit to his power. If you...

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 12:57 am

... choose to say 'God can give a creature free will and at the same time withhold free will from it,' you have not succeeded in saying anything about God: meaningless combinations of words do not suddenly acquire meaning simply because we...

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 12:58 am

... prefix to them the two other words 'God can.'... It is no more possible for God than for the weakest of his creatures to carry out both of two mutually exclusive alternatives; not because his power meets an obstacle, but because nonsense...

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 1:00 am

... remains nonsense even when we talk it about God."

I agree entirely with this statement.

But what do we do with the passages that say all things are possible, etc?

I think that if you examine those passages carefully you will find that...

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 1:04 am

... they are always discussing something specific that sounds so difficult it might be impossible:

Mark 10:24-27 ESV

And the disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said to them again, ?Children, how difficult it is to enter the kingdom...

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 1:06 am

...of God. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God." And they were exceedingly astonished, and said to him, ?Then who can be saved?? Jesus looked at them and said, "With man it...

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 1:09 am

...is impossible, but not with God. For all things are possible with God.?

These statements always so showup when talking about God's power, especially when contrasted with man's power. It is imposible for the rich to be saved, but God can do it.

EngrNate CA Conservative
02/06/14 1:13 am

Omnipotence is about power, not ability. God has the power to do all things that are possible, even many things we believe to be impossible. That does not include nonsense.

Sorry for the length, don't think I could have said it more sussinctly.

curly
02/06/14 8:20 am

No, that was very thorough, thanks :)