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Show Of Hands February 2nd, 2014 7:26pm

Christians: do you think God performs physical miracles in the world today?

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Soz520 Belle Mead
02/06/14 8:35 pm

you people need to get a better grip of reality and stop taking those drugs

Soz520 Belle Mead
02/06/14 8:33 pm

There is no God. ..20 kids in Newtown didnt did for a great being they were murderes by a kid who's mom needed better mental health care aka Obama care

bnnt Los Angeles
02/03/14 7:27 pm

My kids being born... Does that count?

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ilovelamp Trenton
02/03/14 3:01 pm

There are to many amazing things that cant be explained for miracles not to exist.

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pappaledu
02/03/14 12:21 pm

It's cool to think that there was no "nature" or "natural laws" before the Big Bang/creation. Making something out of nothing defies "natural law" therefore it's a miracle anything's here at all!

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CalebWhitfield
02/03/14 12:01 pm

I do not think they do I know they do!!

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cluney
02/03/14 11:40 am

Well the Red sox won the series in 06 so I have to say yes.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 9:59 am

We've seen people come back to life that should be a vegetable but they are fine now. Most of the time if not all the time miracles are all sparked from the beginning of time He knows from when the first strings or particles were flicked into motion

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 10:00 am

What to align when so today the miracle is just good timing. He's not breaking natural laws just beating the odds with those laws.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/03/14 10:47 pm

what would you consider breaking natural laws?

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:30 pm

There are many contexts for natural laws but in this statement I mean God is hands off after the initial flick. There's nothing stopping Him from making additional flicks but I doubt He needs to make corrections. Time is very perspective contexted.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/03/14 11:36 pm

so, to understand your position, you think in the beginning of time he ordained it and so we see the result now?

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:41 pm

Say you build a table. It is slanted and you have added notches to the table so that the marble goes in the cup at the end of the table. You let it go and then the only natural law is gravity as it is the constant and the table is time. The reason...

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:43 pm

He has to put notches are in response to freewill in which people can do as they please. They can tel God to not include them in His plan for the cup and go they're own way. When they do this they steer the marble off course for them personally.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:45 pm

Some realize they are bad drivers and again ask God to take the wheel which he know when that would be so thats why he made the notch for right then.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:46 pm

This is how freewill and foreknowledge coexist.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/03/14 11:47 pm

sure, but your analogy seems to forget the power of prayer. there are several instances in Bible where God changes his mind. carved notches don't allow for this. his character doesn't change, but his decisions can. also, God is not limited by time

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:50 pm

Prayer is us inviting him to drive but this action is only real-time on our end, He knew when we would ask and has set up the people and events in advance to get you back on course and time it as a response to prayer so we can learn from experiences.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:51 pm

He does not change His mind. He knows everything and can't be wrong. Can you share an example?

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/03/14 11:59 pm

There is a lot of pretext that has to be loaded for the whole universe to click. Such as the bible is not the word of God though precious, Jesus is the word of God, as one would would bring the will and intent of a king to a far away land.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:00 am

Moses had to convince God but to destroy his people and start over with Moses' family. another instance is Abraham speaking about Sodom and Gomorrah with Jesus, and moving the number of godly people down. each time a new agreement is reached

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:01 am

He shows us what God is really like, what He stands for and His character. There is a critical shift of understanding from the old testament to the new though we still make mistakes, some of the old testament mistakes were cleared up by testing...

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:02 am

I would see a better analogy as this: you come to a fork in the road. predestination would say God blocked off one so you take the other. I would say both have futures for you in store and both are open and God knows which way you'll go

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:03 am

...action authorship by comparing the action with the know known author. WWJD now read the old testament and when a human records history from a human perspective blaming god for this or that ask WWJD if it doesn't match it doesn't match.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:08 am

I'm finding it difficult to follow your train of thought, but I'm interested in hearing it. would you mind boiling it down to one or two simple sentences? I want to make sure I thoroughly understand your opinion before I respond in like

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:08 am

I'll take the Abraham example, think back to eden when God ask "where are you?" and then "what did you do?" God knew these answers but asked for the sake of us. Again with sodom Abraham feels like he is actually convincing God,but instead God who...

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:10 am

... invented the man's brain is teaching him in an effective method. Asking questions, walking through each scenarios etc.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:13 am

Thats difficult because 1 I am not good with teaching though I'm happy to share and 2 I am in essence explaining the universe and God. It sounded like u r reading the bible as if everything that is said about God was by God. We have to use Jesus to..

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:15 am

Filter out the humans so we can get an accurate picture of God. Once we do we learn enough about God to accurately speculate impossibilities that we can illuminate as possible universe models because it lies outside God's profile.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:15 am

exodus 32:13-14 is the Moses reference. God was not pretending to change his mind

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:17 am

In my mind the concept is all laid out at once on a virtual desk and each portion spelled out in detail and thats how I can best realize it but the more you simplify it the less accurate and more complicated it gets due to english having alternates.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:17 am

I believe the scriptures were and are God breathed and God inspired. I don't think he would allow his church and bride to be raised and living out a false or outdated instruction manual.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:19 am

I understand it is difficult to simplify. it's also difficult to carry on three branches of this conversation at the same time haha. I do enjoy it though

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:20 am

Further God does not kill . WHAT???? Yep though from his perspective it would be as morally inert as moving a puppy from one cardboard box to another but in principle He does not. Countless people blame Him for it either because they cannot see...

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:22 am

...God physically with their eyes or they mimic the theology of someone else who had the same limitation.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:23 am

okay there I strongly disagree. have you read exodus at all? God kills plenty of people. "and the Lord struck him down" opening holes in the ground, ordering the slaughter of many peoples, killing a priest for touching the Ark as it fell, etc.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:25 am

Like I said before the bible is precious and the Gospels are a treasure as it lets us not through out the rest of the bible because it gives us a key or lens in which we can make up for human perspective by applying Jesus(God's perspective.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:27 am

"and the Lord struck him down" opening holes in the ground, ordering the slaughter of many peoples, killing a priest for touching the Ark as it fell, etc

Who said this?

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:29 am

never does Jesus contradict the scriptures. he came to fulfill them, but change. I don't think God plants people in front of crazy drivers to get run over, but if you misrepresent him or speak blasphemy against his name, I wouldn't be surprised

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 12:31 am

those are things that happen in the old testament. read the times of wandering in the desert and the first few kings of Israel and the prophets of the time. God does kill people. the bible is quite a violent book

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:33 am

If someone stole from someone else then got hit by lightning and died a week later who did it? If you say God you would be doing the same as many people in the bible.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:37 am

People in the bible blame God for the death of people but that does not mean God did it. Jesus is the only source that has the adequate perspective of God and He does not Kill but instead loved enemies and dissed the sword and showed how graceful.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:38 am

I don't want this conversation to end so i will pick it up tomorrow but I need sleep.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 6:29 am

haha I did the same no worries. I would say the person who stole brought it upon themselves, for sure, but it was God, not a human, who commissioned the lighting. Jesus does love his enemies, but on judgment day God will send his to an eternal death

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 6:31 am

"And the anger of the LORD burned against Uzzah, and God struck him down there for his irreverence; and he died there by the ark of God." -2 Samuel 6:7

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 7:20 am

"And the anger of the LORD burned against Uzzah..." Who said this?

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 7:23 am

Lightning is caused charges that build up via moving water particles and then discharge when they can find a path to ground. This is one of many results of the fall, no the world is broken and unbalanced and so it storms as a repair function.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 9:37 am

Samuel, prophet of God, said it. The BIBLE is God's word. He inspired it. What about the flood? That killed almost all humanity. Did God not send it for that very purpose? He was purging His creation of sin and evil.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 11:03 am

No God did not send the flood that is another result of the broken world since sin(via the fall) corrupted the perfect order God created and called good. Samuel the prophet was human. God inspired me to do things but I am not perfect either.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 11:06 am

When Job was blaming God for everything and trying to reason out why He would do these things, God put Him in his place humbling Him by giving examples of how little job understood.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 11:47 am

yes, as a really of sin, God sent the flood. the bible is very clear about that

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:18 pm

The bible tells us that a man clearly thoughtGod sent the flood.We can speculate what actually happened with out certainty but we can rule out for sure God's guilt.

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/04/14 12:19 pm

Because Jesus' character does not allow for that.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 5:15 pm

you keep going back to Jesus's character. do you have biblical support for that? because we get all that information from men as well. it sounds like you question the validity of God's word

dotails DotUrTsAndCrossUrEyes
02/05/14 12:50 am

Jesus is God's word and His actions are depicted in4gospels that validate each other.Plus there are many proofs in the text to validate it as authentically describing a few years of Jesus life death and resurrection too proving He was who He claimed

at23steelers earth
02/03/14 6:48 am

I've seen about 10 in person so of course

alval California
02/03/14 6:40 am

Every time I get up in the morning.

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captrob57 long beach
02/03/14 2:32 am

There is a lot.of personal perception that goes on when it comes to what a person thinks is a miracle. by definition a miracle is just something that is beyond our understanding.

captrob57 long beach
02/03/14 2:33 am

It happens to be a big flaw in society today that when someone or a group of people don't understand something the dismiss it or try to discredit it.

ModerateGOP26 Maine
02/03/14 2:17 am

I think He COULD, but I don't think He does. At least not since over 1,900 years ago.

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nickyreads You Are Loved
02/03/14 10:46 pm

really? no need? I would say there's even more need for miracles in today's world

ModerateGOP26 Maine
02/04/14 3:12 pm

Then why don't we see any? Why aren't they as obvious as they were to the people of the Bible? I think Jesus was the last intervention in the Universe that God probably felt he needed.

captrob57 long beach
02/04/14 3:21 pm

Or maybe you have not seen any cause you don't know how to see them. I myself m am living proof of miracles in the world today. And for me to deny that would be as if I am denying God himself.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/04/14 5:19 pm

we do see them. all the time. have you ever seen a miracle documentary? they go to Africa and film crazy stuff!!! prophetic conferences too. there are no shortages of miracles out there, I promise

4yourhealth Washington
02/03/14 12:25 am

Life, in all of it's infinite glory is a miracle of God no doubt!

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opptop Michigan
02/03/14 12:24 am

Yes! The Eucharist is a miracle that happens every day!

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CeeBree California
02/02/14 9:33 pm

I am on the edge; I don't know if I can believe god affects the world but then believe that he couldn't stop things like 9/11

albyunderwater Yesterday
02/02/14 9:14 pm

"And if there were miracles wrought then, why has God ceased to be a God of miracles and yet be and unchangeable Being?"

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Casper Deep inthe Heart ofTexas
02/02/14 5:19 pm

Some of us are able to recognize what others can't.

dexter
02/02/14 4:24 pm

3 years ago when my daughter was born.

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MissN The Experiment
02/02/14 4:06 pm

He does through our hands.

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isusd5
02/02/14 4:02 pm

My daughter had serious brain cysts when she was born where her brain had died before she was born. The neonatologist said expect delays, motor impairment and seizures. We prayed she would be okay. We did therapy to help with the expected delays.

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isusd5
02/02/14 4:04 pm

We went in at one year to check the cysts that the neurologist said would be there all her life. They were gone! The pediatric neurologist said she'd never seen that before.

chickencookie
02/02/14 3:57 pm

Without a doubt.

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curly
02/02/14 3:02 pm

Great Q. Yes. But by nature, they are very rare.

leader77 California
02/02/14 2:12 pm

The reality that life exists at all is a miracle. A slight shift in global positioning or countless other factors and life would not be found.

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platinum
02/02/14 1:56 pm

Why is SOH singling out Christians?

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HotelCompany sight picture
02/02/14 4:25 pm

Only those people whose profile indicates Christianity are receiving this poll. It's directed at Christians because it wouldn't be a reasonable question asked elsewhere and because the targeting keeps out the hater riffraff.

platinum
02/03/14 1:13 am

Oh, very good. I didn't realize SOH was doing that. Thanks :)

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 1:46 pm

I said no, because my understanding of a miracle is something that completely defies natural & physical laws. My understanding of NT scripture is that miracles ended with the apostles' generation.

That said, I do FULLY believe that God can &

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 1:48 pm

sometimes does intercede in our lives to make the unlikely or improbably happen. I can provide several examples of this, but I do not call them miracles in a Biblical sense.

curly
02/02/14 3:03 pm

I appreciate your answer. Providence is god working in the world, but it isn't miraculous :)

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 3:49 pm

I believe in a living prophet and apostles today. Miracles happen all the time, but personally I've never been on the receiving end. My dad can walk after being told he never could, sure he has a limp...but he can walk and run just as well.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 3:52 pm

I wasn't trying to sound contentious or argumentative, that's just my personal belief and I wanted to voice it.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 4:03 pm

would you call the stretching of a leg defying natural laws? how about broken bones healed? cancer gone? I can legitimately say I have witnessed miracles. THEY HAPPEN, and they'll blow up your world.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 4:09 pm

My mom learned to walk again after being told that she would never walk again. We were also told that she wouldn't live to leave the hospital, but she did & lived for three years afterward. I don't think it was miraculous, because it did not defy the

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 4:10 pm

laws of nature, but it did defy the medical odds. I believe that God's providence was involved, but that is different from miracles.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 4:15 pm

I literally witnessed someone's leg stretch several inches about 2 weeks ago. that defies all medical standards; you wouldn't agree?

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 4:16 pm

Foxy - I'm not trying to be contentious or argumentative, but I would like to learn about your faith. What is the scriptural basis of your belief in a living prophet & living apostles? If it isn't scriptural, what is the basis?

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 4:18 pm

if I may, we are called as Christians to be Jesus's disciples. did he not say his disciples would perform greater signs and wellness than he did. he never says "you 12 will..."

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 4:19 pm

Nicky, that is interesting. I didn't read your first comment before I posted. I was responding to Foxy. I would like to hear more, like context, setting, why it needed stretching, etc.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 4:22 pm

absolutely- at my pastor's house, a man had back problems and pastor had a revelation that the legs as well as compressed vertebrae were contributing. I can't speak for vertebrae, but I watched the leg grow. the man had no pain he had suffered b4

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 4:28 pm

I'd have to look up scriptural references, but I believe after a time the gospel was lost/unorganized and God waited for the right time to restore it. Joseph Smith prayed about which church to join and he was told none.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 4:30 pm

The church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints. Lds.org will help answer questions that would just take up space in this forum.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 4:31 pm

But I also believe there is some truth in every belief system.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 6:52 pm

Foxy, No offense, but I am not subject to the Book of Mormon, but I do now understand your comments. Thank you for explaining.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 6:53 pm

Nicky, no offense, but I have seen similar in a chiropractor's office.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 6:55 pm

You are both entitled to your beliefs, but you have not convinced me. I think it is best for all of us to walk away.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 7:10 pm

we sat and prayed and it stretched. no medication, no tricks. just miracles. I don't desire or need to convince anyone, that's like defending a lion. God is not limited to the past and doesn't change. he used miracles before, and he still does.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 7:51 pm

Nicky, if you weren't trying to convince me, then why comment on my comment?

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 7:57 pm

I typically like knowing when contradictory information to my beliefs is out there and comparing the evidence. convincing and providing information from a different perspective are different things

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 7:58 pm

besides the fact it is a cool, true, godly story, which this world needs more of

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 8:07 pm

I saw a leg grow on Dr. Oz one day without pain medicine, too. It was about relaxing a compressed muscle or nerve. It was done with some stretching & massaging I believe.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 8:10 pm

could you please send me the link? Also, I don't remember God ever being too cool to use people as well. my point is he doesn't have to, and doesn't always, even today

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 8:10 pm

I don't mind you providing information, but if you think I could look at the results & not know there are people with differing perspectives, then you must think I am blind.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 8:29 pm

Nicky, I don't recall the exact title of the procedure & I didn't save it anywhere, because I wasn't planning to use it. I did a quick search on Dr. Oz's site, but he does so many segments on back pain that it didn't find it immediately.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 8:31 pm

My point is that it didn't break natural law, so while it was amazing & impressive, it was not a miracle in the Biblical sense.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 8:41 pm

Here is some audio explaining the difference between miracles & providence. www.housetohouse.com/MediaPlayer.aspx?media=6070

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 8:42 pm

please don't misinterpret my intentions. just adding to the conversation and sharing my beliefs, like everyone else. I'm sure you're a very intelligent person, but I feel compelled to at least contribute to your awareness of the reality

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 8:55 pm

thank you for the sources. I would encourage you to research the other perspective as well. it will change your life

persuader
02/02/14 9:19 pm

I believe miracles occur in the lives of those who have & exercise faith in God & Christ. Where there is no faith, there will be no miracles. Same pattern during the life of Christ. Yes, miracles occur today. Spoken little of because they are sacred.

persuader
02/02/14 9:24 pm

Miracles are not intended to "prove" to the non-believer; to those who have not faith. Miracles are a blessing given to those who believe & have faith in Christ. If there are no miracles, it is because there is no faith in Christ.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 9:25 pm

The book of Mormon is just a book, but it testifies of Christ in the same way the Bible does. Christ loves everyone so why would he only visit the Jews after the resurrection?

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 9:31 pm

foxy, not sure who you're addressing, but you might not like my answer

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 9:32 pm

persuader, I'm afraid I'd disagree. there are many who doubt God and his power but he uses miracles to bring them in. I know that isn't the sole or even main purpose, but it does happen

persuader
02/02/14 9:37 pm

nickyreads, yes, the priests of Baal along with the armies of pharaoh certainly witnesses miracles. Didn't turn out too well for them. The same pattern was exhibited by Christ. Those who have faith, or at least desired to believe, often were blessed.

persuader
02/02/14 9:42 pm

foxycheese202, yes, I have also found the Book of Mormon to be true. It is a second witness with the Bible that testifies of the living Christ. It testifies that the Bible is true. One may come to know for themselves by honest reading & prayer to God

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 9:52 pm

The point of miracles in the Bible was to prove God, His power, His deity, etc. If miracles still occur, why would they now have a different purpose?

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 9:57 pm

Foxy, I am trying to be respectful of your beliefs. You would not like my response, if I go down this road with you.

persuader
02/02/14 10:05 pm

Yes, miracles have been observed by faithful & faithless, & they do testify of God. However, generally you will find that miracles were performed upon those who believed in Christ. The gift to perform miracles is a gift of the Spirit. 1Cor. 12:7-11

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 10:07 pm

Okay. If you think I'm wrong it's not disrespectful. And Christ loves us all no matter what! So we can agree on that and disagree fundamentally.

persuader
02/02/14 10:08 pm

Therefore, it is by faith that miracles are wrot. It is by faith in Christ that the gifts of the Spirit can be obtained to work His will in blessing the lives of others; those with great faith, weak faith, or simply a desire to believe.

avscupquest Bronco
02/02/14 10:15 pm

God is a God of miracles. He has a prophet and 12 apostles on the earth today. The Book of Mormon is another witness of Jesus Christ. His church has been restored to the earth. Ask HIM if it's true. That's all you can do.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 10:33 pm

Foxy, my apologies, but others are not dropping the subject.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 10:35 pm

The Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible. If they were both inspired by God, this would not be true.
www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=11&article=863
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persuader
02/02/14 10:41 pm

BamaGirl, others have simply shared their feelings & beliefs. It is not intended to be threatening to you nor to anyone. Please note that that which has been said testifies of the Christ & of the truthfulness of the Bible, of his love & miracles.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 10:46 pm

Persuader, all due respect, but y'all chose to comment on MY comment to tell me that I am wrong per your beliefs. If you simply wanted to express your opinion, you could have just created your own comment. I have done my best to respect your opinions

persuader
02/02/14 10:47 pm

If you desire to discover truth, it would be well for one to rely less upon the puny arm of man, & to ask God. You may consider reading the Book of Mormon yourself, in the Spirit of prayer.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 10:49 pm

but you continue to refuse to respect mine. Also, no one has given me scriptures to back up your beliefs other than the Book of Mormon which I don't believe is part of God's Word.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 10:52 pm

I have read the Book of Mormon. I know God, Jesus, & the Holy Spirit. Thank you. I pray that you will open your heart & mind.

persuader
02/02/14 10:52 pm

BamaGirl, It was not my intention to offend you. It seemed as though a discussion was occurring regarding miracles & ones beliefs concerning miracles.We did not criticize your beliefs. But thank you for the source material.I have heard it all before.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 10:53 pm

I know the truth of God's Word.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 10:56 pm

I commented because I like what you have to say and wanted to talk to you specifically.

persuader
02/02/14 10:57 pm

In the spirit of respect & dialogue, I did provide one scriptural reference. If you would like additional scriptural references on any particular topic, I would be happy to share them, if that is something that you desire.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 10:57 pm

It was never a discussion. I stated my beliefs & others told me theirs & implied that mine were wrong. I have heard all this before, too.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 10:58 pm

I don't believe you are wrong. You may be doing exactly what God wants you to be doing and that's right for you. I'm not preaching moral relativity here, just that God works in people in different ways. I didn't mean to offend and make you feel

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 11:00 pm

attacked or that you are wrong. Don't care if others believe you are wrong or you will get bogged down by negativity. I just wanted to spread the joy I find in my gospel. Maybe one day I'll make someone happier bringing them closer to God.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 11:02 pm

And I see you comment on a lot of things and I like you. So don't fret or feel threatened. I think all Christians should, despite fundamental differences, focus on what we do agree on and find joy in doing good in this world.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 11:03 pm

guys, plain and simple, miracles happened in the past. God doesn't change, so it stands to reason they still happen, esp with eye witnesses. foxy, both Bible and book of Mormon cannot be true. I pray God reveals this to you himself.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 11:03 pm

Persuader, yes, miracles were a work of the Spirit, but later in the passage, it says they will cease. (1Cor 13:8-10)

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 11:05 pm

persuader, you're preaching a "whatever works for you" policy, which is unbiblical. bamagirl, again, no offense. comments are meant to be commented on as discussion. this isn't for arguing, it's for presenting different ideas with support, people.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 11:07 pm

I've never heard those specific disagreements to the book of Mormon, but I'm typically skeptical since mormonism makes most religions angry. And I found a few ways to argue the points, but that's because I don't believe them.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 11:07 pm

1 Corinthians 13:8 is in context of parts versus whole. not completeness in other words, in chapter of love. God knows ultimate plan, we don't. spiritual gifts don't cease

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 11:07 pm

Foxy, I like you, too & we have agreed on other things in the past which was why I tried to keep this cordial. I appreciate your concern & your heart.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 11:09 pm

if you are willing to believe them, historian or not, you will. I don't so my faith stands. Fortunately I have prayed about the Bible and the book of Mormon. I feel them both to be true.

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 11:12 pm

Thank you bama. Whether we're all wrong or right. Good is of God, and I think with that simple stance we can grow closer to him. I can't believe he'd be loving enough for the atonement, then condemn us over details.

nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 11:13 pm

y'all, feeling pretty much like everyone is set on disagreeing. in God's love I pray all of you will understand his true heart and love for you. please, I beg you, don't close your eyes to the wonders he has in store for you. with that, good night

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 11:14 pm

But! I do kinda agree about the natural laws thing you're leaning towards. Nothing unnatural helped my father walk. In fact, I wonder if God is subject to laws himself and he just knows more about the science of things than we do

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 11:15 pm

so where we see a miracle of seas parting that defies laws of basic physics, he sees a way to move elements that we can't fathom yet. lol dun dun DUN!

persuader
02/02/14 11:30 pm

BamaGirl, again, I am sorry if my comments placed you in a position of feeling attacked or diminished. That was not my intention. I agree with you regarding miracles often defying natural law, at least as I understand them.

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Arizona
02/02/14 11:51 pm

Good night y'all. May The Lord bless you.

kjs Minnesota
02/02/14 1:26 pm

We absolutely believe because my husband cancer was much worse than we thought and the the surgery went better than even the Dr. thought and has no complications from radiation. Miracles happen all the time. We are proof of that. Thank you Jesus.

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jdw
02/02/14 1:26 pm

God performs physical miracles everyday, and Democrats demand the right to Abort them.

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nickyreads You Are Loved
02/02/14 4:16 pm

amen to that! unfortunately, it isn't just a political opinion

Arkansas123 Neoconservative
02/02/14 1:25 pm

Yes, God acts through people and nature to bring about highly improbable outcomes.

pcox104 Florida
02/02/14 1:15 pm

By all accounts, I should either not be alive or at least brain damaged after an overdose years ago. My blood sugar dropped to 14, I stopped breathing, and the doctor said it was as if I was underwater for 40 minutes.

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pcox104 Florida
02/02/14 1:16 pm

I came out of it unharmed and went to law school months later.

greeneyes616 RDH
02/02/14 1:23 pm

Sounds like a miracle to me!

HotelCompany sight picture
02/02/14 1:13 pm

Yes. I think those who say No believe in a God that changes.

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kman101256 Princeton, WV
02/02/14 12:54 pm

Any "Christian" who doubts this must not be much of a Christian

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shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
02/02/14 12:45 pm

God actually put money in my wallet one night. I was running low on funds and had to in go to an out of town Dr appt the next day. I counted the money in my wallet three times that night. There was exactly $100. I put $40 in gas. The next

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shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
02/02/14 12:47 pm

morning I had $103. There should have been $60. I had asked my husband for $20 so I figured he just left extra until I found the $20 bill he left me. I came home that day with just the amount of money I needed to get gas to go to my mom's house

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
02/02/14 12:48 pm

the next day which would take me to payday. I'm convince God gave me that money because who else would have put it there and how would they have know the exact amount I needed???

foxycheese202 A Mormon
02/02/14 3:53 pm

That's awesome! We had something kinda like that but found money I forgot I hid.

jchristianreed South Carolina
02/02/14 12:41 pm

Anyone who answered "no" must not have children.

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4yourhealth Washington
02/03/14 12:24 am

Probably not. But, they shouldn't need a kid to realize that they have been born and that is truly a miracle!

BwhoUare Oklahoma City, OK
02/02/14 12:39 pm

Never doubt the power of God.

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reader5673
02/02/14 12:31 pm

I was healed of hives the doctors couldn't explain, just treat. After 6 months on prednisone, I went up for prayer at church and after, felt I should stop taking it. Never took it again - no hives, no side effects of stopping suddenly.

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MrAngerer
02/02/14 12:40 pm

I go to school with the younger brother of Joel. This is a legitimate story.

lightsabr2 The Big Sky
02/02/14 12:30 pm

Faith is "being certain of that which is not seen". Miracles ARE seen. Bodies are healed, doctors are stumped, people are saved, and it's by the Hand of God.

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believer3 California
02/02/14 12:34 pm

GOD is so good, he even provides the faith when we find him and know him. Faith comes by hearing, hearing by the word of GOD.