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snagglepuss June 12th, 2017 5:48pm

I see a lot of the use of cuckholds, leftists and libtards. Do you think words like these are necessary to get a point across or overused and pointless.

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PoliticalGuru
06/13/17 8:17 pm

Not necessarily are they useful but they can make the debate more exiting

crazyjane New Jersey
06/12/17 11:10 pm

They show me ignorance

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/13/17 3:34 pm

I agree with you. Do they shut down your willingness to talk?

krazyjoe Chicago
06/12/17 9:49 pm

Pointless. Except for leftist, I don't see that fitting in with the other two.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 9:53 pm

Referring to someone as a Marxist communist even when they aren't?

krazyjoe Chicago
06/12/17 10:01 pm

Just like when someone refers to a conservative as right wing. Leftist has become the term for a liberal in my opinion.It has become the identifier.Libtard, and a cuck is just to far.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 10:04 pm

Right wing doesn't have the same meaning as leftist. I see liberal and right wing as identifiers.

pietsch Another Adoring Fan
06/12/17 7:10 pm

I admit to using those words. I do it because when I read back my comment, it makes me laugh. It's that third grade thing sort of like where you still think the word "fart" is funny, I guess.

pietsch Another Adoring Fan
06/12/17 7:13 pm

Of course, I don't live or die by this app. I use it for entertainment, not as a substitute for friends, someone to talk to, etc. I think it's possible that some people on here are as serious about themselves and their opinions as a heart attack. I don't get that. I don't get that at all.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 9:20 pm

Some people probably actually care about their polls and gauging public opinion. How extremely odd on a polling app.

pietsch Another Adoring Fan
06/13/17 6:48 pm

Well, I suspect there are more people like me than like the serious pollsters like you're talking about that. Imagine that.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/13/17 7:57 pm

More like you in terms of trolls?

paranoidandroid peace love science
06/12/17 4:04 pm

It goes both ways with words like Trumptard and Trumpkin. I fully admit I've used one of those to refer to the collective before. It's *completely* unnecessary.

I think it's more obvious on SoH when the words libtard, snowflake, safe space etc are used bc the app is so right leaning and there can be a herd mentality. Anonymity can bring out the worst in everyone.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 4:27 pm

Well put. I can see that. Just had a few days of reading comments and I started to see a lot of similar comments.

paranoidandroid peace love science
06/12/17 5:20 pm

This app can be both eye opening and disheartening at times. Personally I think the right lean feeds itself by driving liberals away. It's unfortunate. There is overwhelming hatred pretty much anywhere that there's a comments section online.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 5:29 pm

That is disappointing. I was intrigued to see what a polling app was like. I didn't expect so much trolling. I guess that's online for you.

paranoidandroid peace love science
06/12/17 5:39 pm

Trolling is pretty much everywhere unfortunately. Give it a chance and don't let them get to you. The good outweigh the bad... the bad are just louder.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 5:50 pm

Yes the bad are very loud and immature. Thanks. You are very encouraging.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 3:19 pm

How about a solid argument with facts and reason presented in a respectful, mature manor?

Ebola1 Florida
06/12/17 3:39 pm

That too.

ronderman North Carolina
06/12/17 2:16 pm

It's a cheap and easy insult which in turn cheapens your point.

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ArdentNerdyGirl USA
06/12/17 2:20 pm

^ Couldn't have said it better.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 2:37 pm

Well stated. I agree.

LibArtie SW Connecticut
06/12/17 1:38 pm

Snowflake is also ridiculous.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 2:37 pm

I personally like fresh new snowflakes in December. After Christmas and New Years they can leave. 😉

RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/12/17 1:23 pm

Both sides use words like that. They do more to identify the speaker than anyone else.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:24 pm

I see. I am just commenting on what I've seen so far. Valid observation on your part.

jhfahfkdshf California
06/12/17 1:13 pm

Pointless, but liberals are far from innocent of labeling conservatives with offensive slurs.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:18 pm

I never said they were innocent I just have noticed it a lot so far.

jhfahfkdshf California
06/12/17 1:21 pm

Yeah, definitely. Both sides sling mud at each other. Few people on the internet can have a civilized dialogue with people who hold different views. It's sad.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:26 pm

Yes. Sometimes I just avoid the poll because I don't care to expose my mind to that kind of negativity. I am more interested in learning what people are interested in and experiencing in their lives.

orgblu10 Shamerica
06/12/17 12:46 pm

Leftist is descriptive. Cuckold and libtard are juvenile and counterproductive.

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Jazzy5 USA
06/12/17 1:05 pm

Totally agree, very juvenile...

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 2:39 pm

I see. Point taken. Not my style to use that word.

gonzoboy Arizona
06/12/17 12:16 pm

"...leftists" isn't really so bad, but those other words are kinda silly, and might never be heard or read during the course of a serious and civil conversation.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:27 pm

I guess it is annoying if you're not a communist.

lcamino Florida and Georgia
06/12/17 12:14 pm

They are unnecessary, and don't help to get a point across.

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DiQuellaPira
06/12/17 12:05 pm

Cuckhold has some bite to it, but it's most effective when used by the alt-right against 'conservatives.' Libtard is childish name calling. Leftist implies Marxist-communist.

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Nuclear Boaty McBoatface
06/12/17 11:46 am

Leftist isn't an insult anymore than liberal is.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 11:55 am

I never mentioned liberal. I see a lot of negative leftist comments. Throwing it around like a disease.

Nuclear Boaty McBoatface
06/12/17 11:57 am

I know you didn't. But their both descriptions of ideologies that can be used as an insult by people who hate those people, but they're not insults.

Just like "gay". It's not an insult. Sure, it can be used like that.

smacc DunningKruger
06/12/17 12:08 pm

Cuckhold and libtard are certainly insults. They can be seen no other way.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 12:17 pm

Did you see the above comment about Marxist communist?

smacc DunningKruger
06/12/17 12:21 pm

Good point

Nuclear Boaty McBoatface
06/12/17 12:25 pm

Well of course. I'm not arguing for those words.

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 1:27 pm

@Smacc Incorrect. Cuckhold can be used in a sexual context so it can be used in another way. 😂

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 1:44 pm

Yes. A cuckhold in a sexual context is someone who wants to see another usually man have sex with their usually wife.

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 1:44 pm

That where it came from. To insult liberals because they think they're weaker and would do that - that they're "beta males"

Nuclear Boaty McBoatface
06/12/17 1:47 pm

Actually I believe that it was at first used by the far right to insult conservatives by insinuating they were "cucking" themselves by working against their own interests and not embracing a hard right ideology. Then it became a catch all.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 2:41 pm

I'm a woman so it would be foolish to use it on me then.

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 2:53 pm

They usually don't refer to women as such

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 3:23 pm

Thanks for helping understand this better. I really appreciate it.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 3:23 pm

My mind is sometimes faster than my fingers. Lol

smacc DunningKruger
06/12/17 11:53 pm

Interesting trivia. I actually have never seen it used on SOH. Sounds a bit old fashioned.

HappyLez No Worries... Be Happy
06/12/17 11:38 am

Limited Intellect or just repeating what they're reading

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Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 11:27 am

Technically they're pointless and while debating someone formally or informally I don't think it should be used. I hear it most often used in jest, but the left has words for the right to so it's kinda just people - there will always be those who are more crude about things.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 11:31 am

What are the words you see the left use towards the right?

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 11:42 am

Bigot, racist, homophobic, misogynist, deplorable, redneck, "wrong side of history", fascist, ignorant, etc ... usually while having dyed hair and a velociraptor screech.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 11:54 am

I meant specifically on this app.

smacc DunningKruger
06/12/17 12:20 pm

Although those are insulting they are mostly descriptive of feelings about the debate itself. The ones in the question tend to be used toward the people in the discussion. If a groups voices opinions that are morally repugnant and are called deplorable it is not an insult toward the right as a whole. It is then used as an excuse and license to insult by the right often.
Who do you think is quicker to stoop to this kind of language?

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 12:51 pm

These words are often shouted at us as a misrepresentation or lack of understanding from the person we're debating. They're overused words that used to have a lot of meaning to them. The left goes trigger happy (pun intended) with using them as a result of mainly identify politics and the disillusioned post-modernism that's actually causing more of a divide

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 12:52 pm

I feel like the right using these words are more to poke fun and make light of what we believe the radical left or well just left now in America that's actually very terrifying for our values or really American values.

smacc DunningKruger
06/12/17 1:00 pm

In my experience, in individual discussions the outrage comes before the insult. For example, the "left believes we are all deplorables". This comes before that is apparent in the discussion as a tactic to diminish who they feel is an opponent from the start.
Bottom line they are used in place of good argument.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:13 pm

Snacc, from what I have seen to this point is Trump supporters are constantly insulting liberals. It's often not necessary from what I have seen.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:15 pm

I haven't noticed the left attacking individuals on this app only Trump himself.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:17 pm

I just think you should make a solid argument and try not to insult others. Insulting others just makes things worse. To me it is trolling.

Finny Conservative Lesbian
06/12/17 1:25 pm

To me it's silly when conservatives are called bigots, racist, homophobes and misogynists in place of an argument as a result of identity politics that can end up resulting in a leftist not even wanting a discussion.

snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 1:31 pm

It gets pointless either way. If you are just going to be disrespectful nothing will ever be accomplished.

smacc DunningKruger
06/12/17 11:48 pm

Finny, I've noticed those phrases but they usually come from a conservative complaining of being labeled as such. In reality often the haven't but identify with a figure that has.

Fank BUILD THAT WALL
06/12/17 11:14 am

How is leftist, an insult that's what they are? If someone called me a right winger, I wouldn't be offended, that's what I am.

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Kay41 the Midwest
06/12/17 11:11 am

Usually when I see these words I completely dismiss the person's argument.

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Myrmidon
06/12/17 11:05 am

Insulting someone will rarely, if ever, get your point across.

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Izzynius
06/12/17 10:49 am

Totally pointless.

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snagglepuss Story Time
06/12/17 10:55 am

I totally agree.