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Show Of Hands April 4th, 2016 6:34pm

Do you think of thunder and lightning as different things, or just different aspects of the same thing?

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happyemu Prosper Tx
04/23/16 11:19 am

Question to answer your question: Can thunder occur without lightning? Can lightning occur without thunder? (whether or not you are close enough to hear it is an entirely different matter.)

Muffin2424 Utah
04/16/16 1:58 pm

It's the same thing, you can see and then hear it.

04/16/16 3:36 pm

Lighting is what you see. Thunder is what you here

happyemu Prosper Tx
04/23/16 11:15 am

Thunder is sound that lightning makes. They are not different things.

ladyniner81 extremists are a cancer
04/11/16 7:12 am

When I was little, I used to think thunder was from the angels bowling with god, and lightning was when God got a gutterball. LMAO.

ladyniner81 extremists are a cancer
04/11/16 7:22 am

Thunder is expanding air that is produced by lightning. Lightning is electricity.

ParaguasPato Columbus GA
04/10/16 7:24 pm

One is the sound made by the rapid expansion of air. He other is a bunch of electricity. They are entire different things even if related.

badattitude no place like home
04/10/16 1:36 pm

Uh, seriously. Thunder is produced by the Lightning but it's not the same thing. One is electricity and the other sound. That's like saying jet noise and jets are the same thing.

cornybread The Large Malus Fruit
04/10/16 10:50 am

They are the same occurrence; the only reason we experience them separately is because sound travels slower than light.

schoolmom1969 Nebraska
04/10/16 7:52 am

I know intellectually they are just different aspects of the same thing...when I stop and think about it, but as it is occurring I think of them separately...most of the time.

schoolmom1969 Nebraska
04/10/16 7:54 am

And now that I'm reading posts....I'm rethinking the whole thing....hmmm

04/10/16 5:12 am

Do you hear the thunder oh can you see the Lightning? We have angered God and now the heavens are all fighting. That's the only conceivable reason for this storm - we must make amends and sacrifice all our first born.

yepnope Maryland
04/10/16 6:39 am

Love love love religion! Also it may be bc we no longer stone gays to death! (sarcasm)

04/10/16 10:23 am
It's from this hip tune at the end of this album.

cyanospool The Deep North
04/10/16 2:17 am

I mean lightning is lightning. Thunder is the sound of lightning. They're different things in the same sense that a cat and its 'meow' are different things.

04/09/16 8:37 pm

Does this question confuse the hell out of anyone else?

cato Santa Barbara, California
04/09/16 8:30 pm

I've heard thunder with no lightning, but I've never seen lightning with no thunder.

happyemu Prosper Tx
04/23/16 11:22 am

Just because you don't see the bolt doesn't mean it didn't occur. There is such a thing as cloud to cloud lightning. Meaning it doesn't leave the clouds and you can't see it from the ground.

kenzbt New York
04/09/16 8:21 pm

Same cause ...two things!

bugdx California
04/09/16 8:20 pm

Would lightning in a vacuum be accompanied by thunder?🤔 I think not so I would have to say separate. But my first inclination was the same because they are both a result of one electrical discharge experienced through different mediums.

Shreveport New York
04/09/16 9:51 pm

Lightning cant exist in a vacuum either

MattB3 Illinois
04/09/16 10:03 pm

Lmao I dont think they were talking about a vacuum cleaner 😂

Shreveport New York
04/09/16 10:32 pm

Who are you talking to? You're the first person to bring up vacuum cleaners

MattB3 Illinois
04/09/16 10:45 pm

Sorry I'm exhausted and totally misread your original message...

04/09/16 8:03 pm

I'd really like the opinion of @firefly5

firefly5 the verse
04/09/16 8:12 pm

Lightning is the static discharge resulting in the creation of a highly ionized streak of air (plasma). Thunder is the sonic boom resulting from the ionized air breaking the sound barrier. So they're separate things, but very much causally linked.

mikemain OKC
04/09/16 6:59 pm

They both come from Thor's hammer

celloVirtuoso buried in sheet music
04/09/16 6:56 pm

An electrical discharge releases energy that makes a light and causes sound. No, they're not interchangeably exactly the same, but they're both different aspects of the same thing—the lightning is what is seen, and the thunder is what is heard. Like when something explodes—there's light and fire (visual) as well as a boom (audible), and while they're not identical, they're still both part of the explosion.

Another example is when someone hits a drum. You see the impact of the drumstick on the drum and the vibration of the drum, and you hear the pitch of the drum. It's all still a beat of the drum.

celloVirtuoso buried in sheet music
04/09/16 6:56 pm

the drum. Idk why the last line is missing there.

coggy iowa
04/09/16 6:51 pm

Without lightning there cannot be thunder. And whether you hear it or not every lightning strike produces thunder. They can only exist together. For this reason I would consider then to be aspects of the same thing.

dudley northern Virginia woods
04/09/16 9:08 pm

I think so too. We see lightning first because light travels faster than sound, roughly a mile a second. So after the lightning is sighted, say one thousand one, one thousand two etc. and when you hear the thunder, that's how far away it is. Do it again for next lightning and you will know if it's getting closer or further away.

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
04/09/16 6:51 pm

I see and hear a movie but the audio and visual are essentially the same thing - the movie. I can turn away or mute it but the other is still there, I'm just not experiencing it.

Liberty 4,032,064
04/09/16 6:26 pm

Lightning is what you see, thunder is what you hear. The occurrence is an electrical discharge.

Okie1967 Lets go brandon
04/09/16 6:23 pm

They are objectively different aspects of the same thing. You can't have one without the other.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
04/09/16 6:21 pm

One is an electrical discharge, the other is sound. They are most certainly not the same; the thunder is caused by the lightning, never the other way around.

04/09/16 6:20 pm

Sometime there's lighting with no thunder

BamaGirl ROLL TIDE from Texas
04/09/16 6:16 pm

While I realize they are different aspects of the same thing, I think of them as different things.

MurrayHitchens The Truth Wins Out
04/09/16 5:57 pm

We could expand on this philosophical question even further:

"Is every thing a different thing or a different aspect of the same thing starting from the big bang?"

benc17 California
04/09/16 6:21 pm

You just took this question to a whole 'nother level

04/09/16 5:56 pm

Technically speaking, they are two things. The Lightning itself has no sound. What creates thunder is the immense power of a lightning bolt literally exploding the space around them, causing the air itself to explode; thus making thunder

MemeThief Not Authoritarian
04/09/16 6:09 pm

>from the lightning bolt
There's where the "same occurrence" argument comes in, they have a cause and effect relationship.

Kay41 the Midwest
04/09/16 5:47 pm

I think of them as two separate things, but I understand their relationship.

Crawdaddy11 Proud Wolverine
04/09/16 5:46 pm

Ok all you pretend scientist wanna be scientists I'm waiting for your really long sciencey explanations (which I won't read) displaying your massive brainpower please enlighten us all

iBakes California
04/09/16 6:05 pm

You're so cool and edgy

IamPriscilla Idaho, USA
04/09/16 5:46 pm

Ya, I kinda think of it as the same thing.

EarlyBird Portland
04/09/16 5:41 pm

Two different things. One is thunder, the other is lightening.

TheSocialist INTJ
04/09/16 5:42 pm

One is lightning, the other is the sound of lightning.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
04/09/16 5:45 pm

One is thunder, the other is the visualization of thunder

Crawdaddy11 Proud Wolverine
04/09/16 5:47 pm

Early bird - keeping science simple thank you!

EarlyBird Portland
04/09/16 5:47 pm

One is the visual, the other is the audio.

EarlyBird Portland
04/09/16 5:48 pm

Anytime, crawdaddy. Anytime.

JackTorS Mostly peaceful polling
04/09/16 7:30 pm

One is chocolate and coconut, the other is chocolate and coconut with almonds.

Oh wait, were we talking about Mounds and Almond Joy?

Praetorianus In the uncanny valley
04/09/16 5:35 pm

That's like asking whether the flash and the bang of an explosion are aspects of the same thing or different. It's two effects of the same thing, in this question a lightning strike.