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gluxford1 June 4th, 2018 3:22pm

The city of Stockton, California is planning to give its residents a guaranteed basic income of $500 a month starting in 2019. Stockton’s mayor claims that this will help combat poverty. Do you support the implementation of a universal basic income?

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rons Thanks America
06/04/18 8:32 am

Only in california. Guess a lot of homeless with be moving their tents to Stockton.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:25 am

No, I do not. All this does is reward and incentivize laziness. Paychecks are for workers only. Period.

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Brandon2018 Stocks Are Overvalued
06/04/18 8:42 am

wow. this is actually real communism.

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think4yourself Not a safe space
06/04/18 8:04 pm

Great for the druggies. Bad for the working people.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:27 am

I don't foresee that at all.

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ovcourse 8646 Bidenflation, CA
06/04/18 2:57 pm

Stockton filed for bankruptcy around four years ago. Stupid is as stupid does.

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CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
06/04/18 12:48 pm

Why do these people keep implementing failed economic strategies? UBI, Uber high min wage, communism, shit doesn’t work.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 9:03 am

We should expect nothing less from Conmiefornia.

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ShockNAweMack can vs should. think...
06/04/18 9:45 am

This just continues to enable people to not find work. Ridiculous. So, people working their asses off and paying taxes are funding those who aren't working.

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Zach21 California
06/04/18 8:28 am

No because it raises the tax rate on income to 50% on those who make more than 250,000 a year.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:29 am

No, but giving it to the people who are already not working and leeching off the taxpayers just encourages them to continue that behavior.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:32 am

1. There are plenty of jobs that won’t be taken by robots. Lots of things require a human touch.
2. If that’s truly a concern of yours, then why don’t I hear you speak out on how to best combat the rise of automaton? That’s a serious question because this is a conversation that needs to happen in our modern society. Who should we be prioritizing? Robots and technology or people? I think some limits need be set.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:36 am

“The rise of androids can’t be stopped”
Nothing will get accomplished with that defeatist attitude of yours. Can they be stopped? No, but they can certainly be regulated and limited.

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Think Lovin Life
06/04/18 10:17 am

No! The economics are simple. Since the mayor is not taking this out of his/her/it’s own pocket, then taxpayers will be forced to pay this onerous tax to support the lazy. Taxes will necessarily rise on both taxpayers and taxpayers (as business tax increases will be passed along to taxpayers).

As a result prices will rise and MORE THAN CONSUME the $500. This is a horribly bad decision from leftists who do not understand basic economics!

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:47 am

No, it’s defeatist. Imagine if Americans in the past shared your attitude.

“The British Empire is the world’s dominant power! It can’t be beat! We should just give up the fight for independence now and turn ourselves in to face treason charges in the King’s court. I’m just being a realist, not a defeatist.”

“The Great Depression is too deep to overcome! The banks have all collapsed and the country is nearly broke. We should just give up and resign ourselves to a life of poverty. Fighting our way out of this rut is too hard and impossible. That’s not defeatism, that’s realism!”


Nothing is too big for our nation and our people to fight and overcome. Giving up, which seems to be your preferred course of action here, is un-American.

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fireguy5454 Indiana
06/04/18 11:32 am

So who pays for this? Does that mean you take $1000+ of my money that I work for and give me $500 back? If the people of Stockton think that’s a good deal, I so found where to unload my real estate on mars investments

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doober72 Vidalia, Ga.
06/04/18 4:09 pm

Pure communism.

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ezh2o Texas Hill Country
06/04/18 8:35 am

Let the poor seek help from religious charity organizations or other private organizations designed to help them . . .

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lcamino Florida and Georgia
06/05/18 1:57 pm

No, that’s a terrible burden on tax payers. Personally, I would move.

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
06/04/18 10:29 am

They should take the money & build a mental health care facility, because these Stockton Cal. people, are totally nuts🤪❗️

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4Freedom1776
06/04/18 6:41 pm

Sounds like the price of milk is gonna go up up up

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RussianThunder Russia and USA
06/04/18 10:46 am

They might want to chat with Finland about that.

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Saparmurat
06/04/18 11:57 am

Thats a lot of money to give every citizen. How do they get that much money? Tax rate there must be insane.

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doober72 Vidalia, Ga.
06/04/18 5:43 pm

Yes, it is the definition of communism.

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jlong105 Indiana
06/04/18 11:05 am

All this does is raise the poverty level

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theNobamist Silicon Valley
06/04/18 11:49 pm

Stockton is a dump.
The drunks and druggies will party under the roadway overpasses.

Who makes money from this?
Taxes? Sales taxes? Sin taxes?

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Think Lovin Life
06/04/18 11:10 am

Mud ... who’s going to pay?

You realize that there are approximately 189,275 adults living in Stockton. If each adult is given $500 per month, the annual cost of this communist initiative will be: $1.136 billion each year!

Just to put this into perspective, so even a leftist can understand, that cost is TWICE the total budget for Stockton for fiscal 2017-2018. Not to be too precise, but their current budget is “only” $625 million.

So, to pay for this idiocy, they’d be forced to TRIPLE their tax revenue! Does this seem reasonable?

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Think Lovin Life
06/04/18 1:29 pm

Bow ... you have proven nothing but that you live in a fantasy. Of course it matters that the government is giving away money that it doesn’t have. And of course it matters that they will hurt the very people they proclaim to help.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:37 am

“The first jobs to go will be service industry.”
Unlikely. The service industry requires a human touch.

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CudOfCow Oregon
06/04/18 8:46 am

Im not sure I understand the difference between this and welfare..

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:50 am

TrueAmerican and Mudkip,
Why are you assuming that fast food is the only service industry out there? There are plenty of others that require a human touch: full-service restaurants, gardening, hotels, housekeeping, flight attendants, etc.

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Think Lovin Life
06/04/18 4:03 pm

Bow ... prove your assertion.

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skinner Jersey City
06/04/18 9:01 am

No, because it’s silly to give everyone a certain amount of money regardless of need. That’s why I support a negative income tax.

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Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/04/18 1:02 pm

It will just inflate the cost of living.

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Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/04/18 1:08 pm

There are plenty of jobs for everyone people just don't want to work.

Receiving money that isn't earned is just going to deface the value of our currency.

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mudkip17 United States of Texas
06/04/18 8:25 am

Not yet, but I do see it being an inevitable neccesity

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 11:51 pm

Politicians, deadbeats, and criminals will make plenty from it. Everyone else will suffer.

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mark4
06/04/18 12:24 pm

Prices will rise to reflect the increased demand so that everyone will be in the status quo ante.

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:38 am

I agree, ezh!

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:53 am

Here’s how you combat automation:
- Place new strict regulations on how much a company can automate their systems and have them inspected regularly to make sure that they aren’t violating the new codes.

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
06/05/18 1:53 am

No, 8 don’t support universal laziness.

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Think Lovin Life
06/04/18 11:38 am

Es ... clearly math isn’t your strong suit!

The entire Stockton budget for this year is $625 million. The cost of giving every adult $500/month is $1.136 billion each and every year.

Who’s going to pay for this idiocy?

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:56 am

“As people spend less time working they can spend more time doing what they love. Like cooking”
A lot of people don’t like to cook, hence why Americans go out to eat so often.

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Think Lovin Life
06/04/18 10:38 am

Ed ... how in the world could you think a stupid move like this wouldn’t raise taxes?

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gluxford1 Arizona
06/04/18 8:59 am

“Why stop it? I see a lot of benifits to it?”
Because those benefits come at a human cost, one that you yourself mentioned above. At least now we know the real reason why you don’t want to address this modern problem. I put the interests of the people before the interests of corporations and technology.

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Robert97206 Portland Oregon
06/04/18 1:03 pm

Good way to remove the value of currency give out free money.

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evoecon nearest binary system
06/04/18 8:11 pm

Wow! Did you think of that on your own?

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bnnt Los Angeles
06/05/18 7:26 pm

Take away money from those that earn it and just give it away from those that do nothing.

Only in my stupid state. #democrats

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think4yourself Not a safe space
06/04/18 8:17 pm

Eco is correct. Those doomsday automation predications have come and failed many times over. Reality has disproven that pseudo logic.

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PB246 California
06/06/18 4:14 am

Stockton is a gross, tough city.

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