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Mattwall1 October 22nd, 2014 2:17pm

If any of my polls have come across as being offensive or attacking in nature, particularly though not limited to the subject of religion, I'm sorry. I'm sure there have been polls of mine that have crossed the line, though that wasn't the intention.

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GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 8:18 am

Matt, you are the *least* offensive user, as far as I can tell. The people who criticize you are looking for something to be mad about. Don't take it to heart!

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GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 10:47 am

Absolutely true, on all points!

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RoDe Latinus wordsus
10/22/14 9:00 am

Haters gonna hate. You're an extremely diplomatic and courteous user, I don't like to discount people's emotions but if anyone has trouble with your polls they are seriously reaching. I think Tony has posted more offensive polls than you.

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
10/22/14 7:43 am

This user is currently being ignored

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Mattwall1
10/22/14 7:48 am

It was great! Thanks for asking!

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FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/22/14 11:08 am

I don't think you have an offensive bone in your body, and people don't even have to know you well to see that.

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suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/22/14 7:41 am

People will draw the wrong conclusion regardless of your intent or how neutrally you phrase it.

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Rosebud Ohio
10/22/14 7:43 am

I can't think of any that would hold true for.

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rons screw politicians
10/22/14 12:38 pm

Stop looking for absolution! Man up and speak your mind!

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GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 7:27 pm

Ozzy, I apologize if I misunderstood you. I took this to be for religion in government. "Your beliefs about separation of church and state fly in the face of our founding fathers and the morality that is needed for a country to self regulate."

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GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 7:32 pm

As a Jew, I feel that separation of church and state protects me.

Also, I interpreted the following to imply that you think Matt does not support Israel. "Also, as a Jew, you should be more respectful of your country, religion, and Israel."

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GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 7:38 pm

I sincerely apologize for any offense. That's how I read it. I purposely didn't use your name, because I don't believe in calling out users, outside of the original thread.

One more important point. I don't think Matt has ever "condemned" ...

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GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 7:39 pm

... Israel. Criticized, but not condemned. There is a very big difference and it's *not* just semantics.

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ozzy
10/22/14 5:43 pm

Thanks guys. !?! I'm not for mixing religion with government. I am against that. I do argue with Matt about government officials (and FFers) should be moral people (and that religious individuals do well in that job). Not because of social issues.

ozzy
10/22/14 5:45 pm

Grandma. Also wrong. I do not want Israel to mix religion and government either. That has never been a position if mine. If you believe I hold a position you should ask. Both points are 100% wrong.

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 7:44 pm

Respectfully, I think you were pretty hard on Matt, just for having different opinions. I was trying to tell him that.

But, I don't want to fight with you, either. You said to ask, so I'm asking. How do you feel about church and state?

ozzy
10/22/14 5:49 pm

Also grandma. I do feel that the way Matt condemns Israel for "other" infractions, always during Hamas problems, is offensive. That is not the same as hating Israel. C'mon guys.

imanag My heaven on Earth
10/22/14 7:47 am

Matt, you're always a very nice young man. How was your birthday? :)

Mattwall1
10/22/14 7:48 am

Apparently I'm offended by religion and am known for my anti religious rants...

lvjenna
10/23/14 5:55 am

I do not post many polls, but I have enjoyed reading many of yours. For me personally this is an opinion poll and your polls make me think, research, and consider different topics. Keep it up!

ozzy
10/23/14 3:48 am

I think he has been very critical of Israel especially during the war with Hamas. It is popular to NOT support Israel, especially if you are an atheist (which is very popular right now.

I agree with you about separation of C and S giving protection

ozzy
10/23/14 3:51 am

But remember. Israel is a Jewish state, not just a sovereign state.

Also. Our FFers believed that only a moral (not religious) populace could self govern. That is the American experiment.
Constant questions calling the FF old white slave owners

ozzy
10/23/14 3:52 am

Is not helpful, innocent or correct. I think Matt is trying to be provocative.
Sorry you think I am soooooo extreme.

ozzy
10/23/14 3:59 am

And btw. On the "original thread". Did you see that I made 1 comment (my opinion), and then Matt made about 10 paragraphs to denounce me. So ... Who was hard on whom. ?????

This IS an opinion polling ap.
Thanks !

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 10:59 am

I found the discussion. That particular user is pretty extreme in some of his views.

I am rather perplexed by two of his arguments, in that thread. He appears to be saying, as a Jew, you should support mixing religion with government. Most Jews ...

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/23/14 4:46 am

Ozzy, I have 4 points. Sometimes, it helps me to organize my thoughts that way, so please bear with me.
(1) In my first comments, I was not even thinking of the role of religion in Israel's government. That is a legitimate topic, but as ...

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/23/14 4:50 am

... far as I can remember, it's never come up before, on any SOH polls or my comments anywhere. So, let's take that off the table for present purposes.
(2) Yes, Matt can be wordy. :) As can I!
(3) I don't actually think he tries to be ...

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/22/14 11:03 am

... that I know are very leery of mixing religion and government. It can too easily become a promotion of Christianity.

The other strange one is where he says you do not support Israel. I have seen zero evidence of that. Believe me, I WOULD notice!

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/23/14 4:55 am

... "provocative," as much as he is iconoclastic. There are plenty of provocative SOH users. It's a matter of posting style and attitude. I don't like that. Being iconoclastic, on the other hand, means that you are willing to question long-held ...

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/23/14 5:01 am

... assumptions. For example, mentioning the human flaws of the FFs is not vilifying them, in my opinion. It's taking a step back and encouraging people to think. That's in the best Jewish tradition, by the way.
(4) As you know (I hope), I am ...

Mattwall1
10/22/14 8:22 am

Im actually having that on Saturday so I'll have w to wait and see

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/23/14 5:09 am

... a strong supporter of Israel. I have never noticed Matt being hostile. He has said, from time to time, that Israel is not perfect. If he was hostile, I would be the first to call him out on it!
(5) So, I lied. I have five points. :) As you ...

knetzere Illinois
10/22/14 8:29 am

Matt I didn't mean it in a negative way I was just wanting your thoughts on it from what I had gleamed from some polls.

knetzere Illinois
10/22/14 8:30 am

Suppose I didn't articulate that very well in my comment

GrandmaALiCE For a better 2021
10/23/14 5:19 am

... you said, this is an opinion polling app. My four points above are my opinions. You are very much entitled to yours. Please take this in the spirit of open discussion, not confrontation.

Mattwall1
10/22/14 8:33 am

I can understand that... Although that still leaves another comment claiming in known for anti religious rants