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RJ1969 October 21st, 2014 2:31pm

Are you one of those Americans that create your own "media bubble"? Link enclosed

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PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/21/14 8:28 am

I think it's sad so many conservatives don't understand the meaning of the words "fair" and "balanced".

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longhorn1 Kindocologist Hater
10/21/14 7:46 am

Not less you can do so from sites like Pornhub and Youporn.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 8:50 am

Only two? That's a pretty narrow view. It's funny how some think presenting two sides of an issue is all that's needed for a full picture.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 9:01 am

And global warming is a great example. There are AT LEAST three "sides": (1) it's happening and caused by humans, (2) it's happening but natural and unavoidable, (3) it isn't happening. And further nuance/variation within some of those.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 9:00 am

No; the point was exactly what I said: the article points to exactly one source that seems to distinguish between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives love it, liberals hate it. As for liberals' favored source, it depends on the liberal.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 9:21 am

Five, actually. We HOPE global warming is happening - because when the Holocene interglacial finally comes to an end, we'll all be huddled around the fire wishing for the good old days when you didn't have to melt your water first to drink it.

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cowboy Here and There
10/21/14 7:39 am

No. I've used sources from CNN to InfoWars.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 7:57 am

people who don't talk much about politics aren't speaking up enough. Polarization is their fault! ;)

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ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 7:59 am

Fox is by far the most fair and balanced. It's just sad so many liberals rely on a comedy network for so much of their worldview.

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PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/21/14 9:33 am

Oh, I see. Fox News is fair and balanced in that it presents the four sides of global warming that Scotty mentioned. Makes sense.

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roundsquare round square
10/21/14 11:03 am

Wait, you mean I'm not going to die of Ebola or ISIS before years end?

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ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 9:04 am

Actually there are four sides to global warming:

1. It's not happening.
2. It's not happening.
3. It's not happening.
4. It's not happening.

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ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 7:44 am

Yeah I love how liberals watch nothing but Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert all day and think that's "news". Oh well, someone's gotta' be a low information voter!

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 7:55 am

It sounds like what they're calling "consistent liberals" have a lot more variety in their news sources, though. It seems that the real separator is whether one trusts Fox or not. Interesting. Also interesting note about the politically aligned

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:41 am

Hahaha I meant an example of an interview you were talking about, not a "let's pat ourselves on the back" clip. I looked up the study in question, and it suggests that the reason for the disparity is because McCain went into attack mode after the

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 7:57 am

friends. I have to wonder if part of that is simply because most people don't talk about politics, though. That could lead to making assumptions about the makeup of your friends that isn't actually all that accurate. Maybe the problem is that the

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ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 10:56 am

Nope, I've just proven you wrong (again). My job here is done.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 8:16 am

I don't think so, because I deliberately look for independent reports and try to go to the source. These two links, for example, referred to the same Pew report. If they were reported differently, I'd find read the report myself.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/21/14 8:17 am

But then, despite being very socially liberal, I am not a "consistent" liberal. On some issues I'm off the scale to the right.

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ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 8:36 am

I think it's sad so many liberals consider the mainstream press "objective" so as to make Fox appear "biased". Unlike the former, the latter tells BOTH sides to a story. And yes, there are two sides to every story.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:03 am

Scotty, if they're using kooks to present an opposing viewpoint, that isn't fair and balanced at all. That's called a straw man argument. It's considered a logical fallacy. Maybe they should change the slogan to "fallacious and biased" then.

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ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 11:22 am

Okay, we're weeks away from the big gaming season. Please tell me you'll be buying at least one of the following:

Master Chief Collection
AC Unity / AC Rogue
Advanced Warfare
Far Cry 4

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 8:52 am

Also, Scotty, it's funny how you simply saw the word "Fox" and knee-jerked into an argument. You'll note I actually didn't disparage Fox in my comment.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:12 am

Got a short clip that demonstrates this "mind-numbing" balance? I have seen some Fox hosts who do a decent job of balancing discussions. Others are clearly in over their heads. So it's possible for x random discussion but it isn't accurate as a

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:13 am

broad descriptor based on what I've seen.

Admittedly I don't watch ANY news regularly. I get my news from an assortment of online news aggregators supplemented by Google, Twitter, and word of mouth. Also the Sirius politics channel on my commute and

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:13 am

OCCASIONALLY NPR, but I'll admit I find a lot of their programming overly dry. What can I say, I'm part of the problem.

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ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 8:57 am

And you said, "whether one trusts Fox or not." Why not whether you trust NPR or not? Clearly the implication is you don't trust Fox.

ghoti
10/21/14 12:27 pm

Fact-only reporting also presumes an intelligent, thoughtful, and reasoning public. Round education is necessary to achieve this.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 11:35 am

Unity. Probably Rogue as well but I may wait for a sale. And Dragon Age: Inquisition. GOD I've been waiting a long time for that game.

centexken Republic of Texas
10/21/14 7:45 pm

FOX News and The Blaze. All the news I need. No need to watch all those damn socialists.

bigdog3210 Around
10/23/14 5:41 am

I refuse to watch any news and enjoy coming to my own conclusions.

AbandonedAccnt Not here.
10/21/14 7:50 am

No. I use a variety of left and right sources. The right sources report on stuff that left ones never touch. The left sources give a balance to the right ones on topics they do actually report on.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:42 am

economy tanked, trying to draw focus away from the economic numbers, which the *public* viewed negatively. So one could argue that the supposedly equitable negative coverage actually is evidence that Fox *isn't* balanced. It's always important to

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:43 am

keep context in mind. For instance, if a politician does something horrible, like defrauding investors in a company, and the politician's opponent is pretty unremarkable, it would arguably show *more* bias to report an equal number of negative things

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:43 am

about the two of them, since one candidate is probably simply a worse person.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 10:44 am

Btw I'm not saying McCain is a bad person or worse person than Obama; I'm just saying that the isolated variable they're talking about in the clip doesn't actually show that they are "fair and balanced."

ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 9:44 am

Sadly no, Fox goes out of its way to be fair and balanced on this issue and consistently features pro-global warming kooks which drives me nuts because everyone knows it's a bogus hoax.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/21/14 11:18 am

It's always so disappointing when you don't engage. Ah well.

ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 10:07 am

"Kook" is my characterization (and you know that). They're accredited scientists and all. Fox is mind numbingly balanced on this issue.

ScottyDoesNo Stand back and stand by
10/21/14 8:55 am

Yes, only two. For example, either global warming is happening or it's not. It's not and Fox presents that side in addition to the pro-hoax side.

ghoti
10/21/14 12:24 pm

News reporting should focus on facts, not "analysis" that is thinly vailed bias. Facts are dry and not always interesting, thus don't "sell." The current base motivation of all major media, to make money - to inform being secondary.