Show of Hands

Any evidence of this?

@fuknor, of course not

NDEs. I’ve also had my own personal experience that confirmed this for me without a shadow of a doubt. But for anyone interested in the topic, thousands upon thousands of NDEs prove this—keeping in mind that only a single one needs to be true to prove it.

Various scientific breakthroughs are also starting to support this in a myriad of ways. We even have a group of mathematicians, who tried to disprove intelligent design and ended up doing the opposite. Fascinating stuff.

Note though that none of this, including Source, has anything to do with religion. Atheists and agnostics have NDEs, too, with a large number of them having encounters with Source.

Where’s the PROOF? Just because multiple people claim to have seen Sasquatch doesn’t make it REAL.

I, too, had a real NDE when I was young but didn’t see a light at the end of a tunnel. Please share your experience…

I did on my poll on this topic, though I don’t expect you’ll believe it, and that’s fine. We all have to walk our own path at our own pace. I wouldn’t have believed it a few years ago myself.

Sounds intriguing. Really haven’t read about or heard about other people’s NDEs before. If you’d still like to share, I’m all ears. No judgement, I promise.

What I had wasn't an NDE, but something far rarer, though not entirely unheard of. I don't mind sharing, but I already wrote it up on my most recent poll, and it's several posts long, so I don't want to retype. Can you look at my most recent poll? It's at the bottom.

Will do, thanks for sharing.

Oh, and you may be interested in this, too:

www.reddit.com/r/NDE/s/Sji9ehKU31

And if you’re super interested in the phenomenon, the University of Virginia is a major center for studying NDEs. Check out their Division of Perceptual Studies, which is part of the Department of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences in the School of Medicine.

Dr. Bruce Greyson is a good source. He’s studied over 1,000 NDE cases since the 1970s.

Fahq, the book I’m currently reading is “Everyday Miracles: 32 Real First-Hand Testimonies that Reveal God's Miraculous Power (An NDE Collection)
by Julie Hedenborg.

www.amazon.com/Everyday-Miracles-First-Hand-Testimonies-Miraculous-ebook/dp/B0DD2GN9M7/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1

This is by a nurse anesthetist who was not a believer until she heard all these testimonies.

“I say to you that the Kingdom of Heaven is here and now.”

Nah, Lucifer has a special seat for Donnie and his faithful MAGAts in that eternal inferno…

I’m not surprised to hear that you have such intimate and detailed knowledge of Satan and his plans…..

if God favors us, who could oppose us?

How do claim to know what God thinks?

*do you

Interestingly enough, that is the default position.
Some people make choices changing from the default position.

moonshot: yep, same default position on my end. Until evidence appears that “something” exists the default position is that this “something” does not exist

An interesting thing about this is we don't necessarily agree on what the evidence is.

All good questions! 🤔

I always say my husband and I will be together, but my heaven is his hell. I’ll be in a park with all of my beloved pets that have passed on. He will be there, too, but will have to feed them, pick up after them, and share his couch with them. ☺️

Knock knock, reality check… you won’t be in the same place as Susan. 😈

Well that wasn’t very nice.
I know where you’re going for sure.

🤪

Haha EB!

Do either of you remember Zod?
Tops mentioned he passed away too. 🥲

I think Tops was just saying that she is afraid he died because he hasn't been heard from.

Oh no! I do remember him! I’ll be so sad that’s true.

We have proof of this?

Oh, ok Kay. Thanks for clearing the air.

Susan was an atheist. She didn't believe in Heaven.

👻

And all the NDEs?

And all the voices in your head. And all the dreams. And all the acid trips.

Hardly equivalent.

Yet still a byproduct of physical processes.

You can’t explain how mechanical processes can result in value, purpose or meaning. You can’t explain how cells whose interior processes are more complex than any human built factory could happen at all, much less pass that complexity to succeeding generations.

But you can cling to the very unscientific notion that random chance caused it all.

Death does not become thee.

😄

Give me an example.

An example of what?

What happens to kind and peaceful Buddhists in the afterlife?

There are no kind and peaceful people. We are ALL sinners who fall short of God’s grace.

So what happens to the souls of peaceful Buddhists when they pass?

Do they just go straight to Hell? Or do they rise above but can’t walk behind the Pearly Gates since they don’t have a VIP Christianity Pass?

@4JC my question is a valid one…why are you choosing not to respond?

Fahq, the Bible teaches that ANYONE that does not accept Jesus as their Savior goes straight to hell. If you choose to have nothing to do with Him in the afterlife, He allows you that choice. So it would depend on whether that Buddhist accepted Jesus or not.

And I wasn’t avoiding your question. My answer applied to ALL people.

I’m sorry, but that just doesn’t seem fair.

A peaceful person who never harmed a fly is going to Hell because he didn’t accept God as his savior.

But a person who has stolen, raped and/or murdered innocent people will be able to enter the Pearly Gates just because he asked God for forgiveness?

Where did you learn that life was fair? My mom taught me that life is NOT fair. Did your mom not teach you that? That might be what’s wrong with today’s younger generations.

But in this case, it’s completely fair. If you tell God you want nothing to do with Him, He gives you your greatest wish. How is that not fair?

Glad to hear the murderer and rapist will be able to hang out with the other Christians up in Heaven…whose lives he destroyed. Just hope they don’t hold a grudge. 🤷‍♂️

Makes perfect sense to come full circle like that.

That’s what you don’t understand. The Christians ARE SINNERS as well as the murderers. The only difference is that our sin is covered by the blood of Jesus, just because we repented of our sin, asked Jesus to forgive us, to cover our sins and to be the Lord of our lives. It doesn’t matter whether you’re a liar, a gossip, a rapist or a murderer. God’s forgiveness is there for ALL who come to Him!

This is EXACTLY what puts Christianity into a different category compared to every other religion. We don’t have to WORK our way to God. He DIED for us. He comes to US with love and open arms. If you want to have a relationship with Him, you can have, no matter what you’ve done in your life. This is what makes the testimonies of those that have committed heinous acts so powerful…..that God would forgive them, no matter what!

You’re right. I don’t understand how a mass murderer could walk into Heaven just because he accepts Jesus to be the son of God —while a kind and well-mannered Agnostic goes to Hell.

But I’m not one bit concerned, because I know it’s completely false.

The kind and mild mannered agnostic makes the same mistake Adam made….thinking they’re smarter than God or that there is no God. Why should any of them bother with this, when they don’t even think there is a God, or that they’re smarter than Him?

And that’s EXACTLY the mistake they make….thinking they’re smarter or greater than the Creator of the entire universe and each of us. That’s like a piece of pottery thinking it’s superior to the potter, or a piece of my counted cross stitch thinking it’s superior to me, when it would not even be in existence if not for me.

As the creator of my pieces of cross stitch, I can make use of them however I want. I can make one piece into a baby’s bib, bath mitt, blanket, or bath towel. I can make another into a Christmas stocking, a man’s ball cap, a coffee mug, a bookmark, a kitchen towel, etc. It’s MY choice as to what I make them into and how I use them in my life, or for gifts, and they have no say in that. They are not the creator. I AM.

Btw, God and Jesus both use the term “I
AM” multiple times in the Bible….to show their eternal being both past and future.

Sorry….when I was typing that out, the format didn’t show that the “I” and “AM” were going to be separated on different lines. Hope you can figure out what I meant.

The Agnostic didn’t make a mistake, he just didn’t learn about the teachings of Christianity.

The killer is more evil than 99% of all other sinners, having taken and ruined many lives.

Who is worse in your book?

Agnostics know about the teachings of Christianity. They just refuse to believe.

It doesn’t matter what I think and who is worse in my eyes. Of course, to me, a murderer is worse than someone that lies. But I’m not the PERFECT Creator of the world, for whom anything less than that perfection is falling short of His glory.

I understand very well where you’re coming from and I can even understand why you feel as you do. Over 2K years ago, God inspired some of the authors of the Bible to write about you and people like you.

1 Corinthians 1 states, "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God". This verse highlights the contrast between how the gospel is perceived by unbelievers and believers.

Similarly, 1 Corinthians 3 notes that "the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God".

Additionally, the concept is further explained in 1 Corinthians 1, where it says, "But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise".

These passages emphasize that the gospel, while seen as foolishness by those who do not believe, is actually the wisdom of God.

"A peaceful person who never harmed a fly is going to Hell because he didn’t accept God as his savior"

Who is that person you speak of. I don’t think such exists. You’re left with relative badness by the standard of a perfect creator, with the possibility of perfection provided only by the sacrifice of the creator. I recognize your need to deny, but just give it a try. Let’s do an experiment. Go somewhere private. A big stretch of woods is fine, but even a well insulated room will do. Now this next point is important to do, regardless of what you think of it. Yell out your need for God's intervention. Tell him you can’t do it on your own and need His help. Ask Him to come into your heart right then.

The double double, well played.