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nacho1 May 8th, 2025 7:09am

Disney Threw A Fit Over ‘Don’t Say Gay’ In Florida. It’s Building A Park Where Being Gay Is Illegal.

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Ebola007 Florida
Today: 4:29 am

The next move should be to build one in Palestine. They could make it illegal to be gay and Jewish. They could book trips from American universities.

Good idea?

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ARedHerring Kentucky
May 08, 4:03 pm

Yes yes, because say it with me now:

Disney is a business who cares more about money than principles.

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fuzzyotis Georgia
May 08, 1:02 pm

It’s business. Money talks as they say.

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LibertarianB0b Chaotic Neutral
May 08, 11:44 am

I think the right is making the same mistake here as the left does when seeing a company message and a message from employees and confusing the two.

StillSlick87 Michigan
May 08, 8:49 am

I think this is a better less bias understanding of the matter.

www.them.us/story/desantis-vs-disney-drama-explained

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nacho1 Logic Land
May 08, 8:52 am

What has that got to do with Disney now building a park where it's illegal to be gay?

nacho1 Logic Land
May 08, 8:55 am

Here is a source quoting Sheik Abanona as saying "they hate gays and will kill them on site.
And it quotes Disney as saying -" we are doing it for the cash but we hate gays"

variety.com/2025/tv/news/disney-earnings-fiscal-q2-2025-streaming-profit-iger-outlook-1236388735/

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 4:38 am

Comrade Trump
Regardless of why, he’s acting exactly like a Russian asset would.

foreignpolicy.com/2025/03/10/trump-putin-russia-asset-spy-security-ukraine-europe-war/

Objective Journalism or Commentary?

Let's see if you two can see the difference.

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 4:52 am

Comrade Trump
Regardless of why, he’s acting exactly like a Russian asset would.

foreignpolicy.com/2025/03/10/trump-putin-russia-asset-spy-security-ukraine-europe-war/

Objective Journalism or Commentary?

Let's see if you two can see the difference.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 4:57 am

Sorry q wrong thread - see below.

See that's an apology - you can tell because it's starts with "sorry" not "I will give you"

Now tell me again I never apologize when I am wrong.

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 5:21 am

You’re combining unrelated topics with sarcastic fabrications as if that proves something. The Them.us article is a breakdown of the DeSantis vs. Disney situation in Florida—about state retaliation for political speech. That’s the issue I was addressing.

The Variety article you linked says nothing about Disney saying “we hate gays,” nor does it quote “Sheik Abanona” making death threats. That’s not in the article because it didn’t happen—you’re just making stuff up to stir outrage.

If you’re serious about journalism vs. commentary, start by not spreading fake quotes. Then we can talk.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:02 am

"And the sources are both there. Not my fault you can’t see them. Everyone else can."

Sound familiar?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:02 am

Was that a true statement you made in the other thread.

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 6:03 am

Except. They were. The quote I referenced was right in the article. What I messed up was who said it. I apologized and you can’t let up. Now you’re just gaslighting and trying to bullying me.

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 6:04 am

Don’t you have a job or something?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:04 am

"But I will give you that I misquoted them"

See that's an apology - right?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:06 am

Canyou point out the paragraph and the sentence location for the quote you attributed to the fraud Mann in either of the sources you posted.

Where is it in the AP report
Where is it in the Yale story

If you can I will leave the app for a week- your chance to be correct and show me up .

Have at it.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:07 am

You skipped that challenge amigo- why,

Because it's not there - you know it - I know it.

You double down- you triple down - you run away.

I put up my leaving the app for a week - that's how sure I am - how sure are you?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:10 am

You don't have to apologize - just cut and paste "You are right Nacho1"

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:11 am

And of course copy @suppressedID

Just for a laugh

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 6:27 am

Oh nacho1. The The supreme leader of SOH and all that is holy great. I supremely apologize from the bottom of my worthless shoes. I am not worthy of your greats and utter likeness. Please do not look up upon me as I am worthless to your greatness.

How’s that? Is does that rub your ego into ecstasy?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:42 am

So the quote isn't in any source you posted.

Is that a correct statement?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:47 am

You don't have to apologize - just cut and paste "You are right Nacho1"

Can't even do that correctly.

It's my fault you lied multiple times - right?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:48 am

@suppressedID
You want to own a piece of this or let @StillSlick87 take all the fault for lying his lefty arse off?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:57 am

So @StillSlick87

Let's put this behind us - please don't lie to me anymore.
Please mock me to cover for your lie.
Please don't insist you never lied when you did.

Please stop Zimmying and we can move on.
I will never mention it again.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 6:58 am

"Please (don't) mock me to cover for your lie."

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 7:01 am

Nacho1. - sincerely get your head out of your a$$. The only thing I did was mess a quote up. Then go back and fix it. You added the rest of the bullshizer. Even when I apologized you needed more. You are a narcissistic fanatic. You need people to pet your ego and stroke it to your desire. When they don’t you stalk them until they do. You need a shrink not a social platform.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 7:07 am

Canyou point out the paragraph and the sentence location for the quote you attributed to the fraud Mann in either of the sources you posted.

Where is it in the AP report
Where is it in the Yale story

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 7:09 am

"StillSlick87

"The quote I referenced was right in the article"

Is that a true statement / please show me the line # and paragraph #


You just didn't mess up a quote - you insisted the quote WWs in ten sources you posted and it's not - you double done on the lie - now you refuse to own it

Zimmying Zimmying Zimmying

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 7:11 am

Sorry / "was in the sources you quoted"

On train in Europe - a little bumpy - sorry for the spelling mistake

See how easy it is to do?

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 7:11 am

You can post it as many times as you want. It doesn’t change the fact that you are trying to have me stroke your ego…again and again. Give a bully what they want and they will comeback for another and another.

Go along little doggie. You’re Nachoing really hard right now.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 8:07 am

StillSlick87

"The quote I referenced was right in the article"

Is that a true statement / please show me the line # and paragraph #
--------
To a lefty - asking a lefty to take ownership of a lie is bullying.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 8:09 am

Yes I am "nachoing"

Asking a lefty to own up to a lie they were caught making.

How awful - we should just let everyone lie and not own it.
They would make SOH better right.

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 8:36 am

It was a mistake. There was an apology. Your inability to realize that is your narcissistic personality coming between reality and your character.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 8:57 am

Can you cut and paste your apology for lying

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 9:00 am

Didn’t lie. Made a mistake. Do you know the difference between the two?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 9:01 am

You "apologized" for saying one scientist said what the fraud Mann said.

You have avoided admitting the quote isn't anywhere in any of the sources you posted.

You double and tripled down on the lie and haven't admitted it

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 9:04 am

A mistake is when you post something and when corrected admit it

A lie is when you post a "mistake" and then double and triple down on the "mistake" even after being told it was a "mistake".

Do you see the difference?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 9:05 am

Now where have you corrected the "mistake" that the fraud Mann quote was in either source you posted?

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 9:11 am

It is though. It is in the article. The fact you can’t see and read that is not my fault. The exact words are in the article! I’m not asking for an apology for your insanity on the fact. I really would like it if you would stop harassing me on other threads about it!

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 9:38 am

Canyou point out the paragraph and the sentence location for the quote you attributed to the fraud Mann in either of the sources you posted.

Where is it in the AP report
Where is it in the Yale story

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 9:40 am

Which paragraph in which source
1 - 2 -3 -4 5 etc....
This is where the rubber meets the road.

One more "apology " upcoming from you

This time try to start with "Sorry, I was wrong ...."

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 9:41 am

Yale story! Quoting the article itself! I misquoted Hay!. It does not undermine what I was saying at all! I’m sorry I misquoted her! For ducks sake you are actually insane!

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 9:41 am

Please look up narcissistic personality disorder

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 11:06 am

Canyou point out the paragraph and the sentence location for the quote you attributed to the fraud Mann in either of the sources you posted.

Where is it in the AP report
Where is it in the Yale story

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 11:07 am

Naomi Oreskes: Well, I wouldn’t really say I was inspired to do it. I would say it was more like I tripped over something that I realized was important.

When I first started doing this work nearly 25 years ago, my goal was to investigate the relationship between scientific knowledge and funding. I was specifically looking at the impact of U.S. military funding on oceanography because oceanography went from being an extremely underfunded science in the early 20th century to being a very abundantly funded science when the U.S. Navy realized that better oceanographic information could help them do their job better.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 11:08 am

In the process of doing that research, I stumbled across the story of a group of oceanographers talking about the threat of human-made climate change from burning fossil fuels. I learned that these scientists had a pretty good grasp of this problem. Even in 1958, they already understood that when we burn fossil fuels, we put greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and those gases heat the atmosphere, and it was extremely likely that in the fullness of time, burning fossil fuels would lead to global climate change.


Oreskes: If we’re asking people to support policy action, or asking people to make changes in their own lives, then I think they have a right to demand that the basis for that should be very solid in exchange. We shouldn’t be asking people to make big changes or spend money on solar panels or whatever it is if we aren’t sure what’s going on is well understood.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 11:08 am

So I think it’s very important for the American people to understand that this really is settled science. We know that the Earth is warming because of human activities as well as we know that there’s gravity, as well as we know that DNA carries hereditary information. This is very well-established science.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 11:09 am

[Another reason concerns] the legal context as we fight for policy actions. We’re seeing the EPA endangerment finding is now being endangered, and as we have to fight for action on this issue, one of the questions that comes up is, “What is the legal basis for action about climate change?” And my group has done some work on the history of the Clean Air Act. There have been debates both in Congress and in the courts about whether or not the Clean Air Act applies to carbon dioxide or other greenhouse gases.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 11:11 am

@StillSlick87

"This statement was made by Dr. Hayhoe, a respected climate scientist, emphasizing the strong consensus on human-induced climate change
Here’s the source for your reference:
apnews.com/article/climate-change-trump-firing-report-damage-a76d2e2d3dfec7318b124b05a78d1ee1"

Is that a true statement

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 11:20 am

In 2006, the International Astronomical Union, a global group of astronomy experts, established a definition of a planet that required it to "clear" its orbit, or in other words, be the largest gravitational force in its orbit.

Since Neptune's gravity influences its neighboring planet Pluto, and Pluto shares its orbit with frozen gases and objects in the Kuiper belt, that meant Pluto was out of planet status

phys.org/news/2018-09-pluto-reclassified-planet.amp

SETTLED SCIENCE for decades until it's not

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 11:22 am

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 11:24 am

You wrote the quote from article right there. That was in the article…

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 11:25 am

I already said I misquoted Hayhoe. You continue to beat a dead horse. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?
The original statement was that settled science is used in a way when things have an outstanding amount of proof for them. That is exactly what that is saying. .

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 11:27 am

Now you’re going into other things in a very crazy manner. Is this what nachoing is?
Referring to something over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again in nausea ? Go spend time with your kids or something.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 12:11 pm

Incorrect yet again.

You got so caught up in your own BS you don't even remember what you said what was in what source.

I keep asking if Pluto as a planet was "settled science" for decades or if Newton was "settled science" for centuries and both were reversed.

It's an example of the folly of "settled science".

This who didn't call Pluto a planet were "anti science " right up to the moment they weren't anymore .

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 12:14 pm

No, those are examples of how science actually works that even though it might be settled science they can still find things that are updated. You are making a case for science!

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 12:19 pm

I always make a case for science - that's why it's never "settled" there is always new information, experiments and study to do.

ovcourse Commiefornia
May 08, 8:28 am

All the more reason they need to stop preaching their politics.

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Crawdaddy11 Proud Wolverine
May 08, 8:02 am

This article is rage bait. And it’s working!

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ilivepolls
May 08, 8:35 am

100%!! That article is designed to get people fired up vs objective journalism.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 4:34 am

Did you read the source and see the byline - "News and Commentary"

Do you understand the difference between "objective journalism" and "commentary"?

Is this meant to be "commentary"

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 4:52 am

Comrade Trump
Regardless of why, he’s acting exactly like a Russian asset would.

foreignpolicy.com/2025/03/10/trump-putin-russia-asset-spy-security-ukraine-europe-war/

Objective Journalism or Commentary?

Let's see if you two can see the difference.

TrumpWon2024
May 08, 7:30 am

the problem with this is youre trying to treat leftists like they have any principles. their opinion shifts to whatever is politically expedient for them.

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StillSlick87 Michigan
May 08, 8:52 am

I would say more that the left has a larger variety of individuals that fight with each other about any one topic. Creating a more diverse culture of something. The right is more unified in their hate and vitriol for things they refuse to try and understand.

nacho1 Logic Land
May 08, 8:56 am

Why not just say the left is morally and intellectually superior.

nacho1 Logic Land
May 08, 8:57 am

Isn't that "settled science"

StillSlick87 Michigan
Today: 4:35 am

“Why not just say the left is morally and intellectually superior.”

You said it not me. “Settled Science” needs to be put into context. Is it “all but settled science” referring to us putting more research on how to fix a problem instead of debating if the same results that keep coming up are actually true? Then yes it’s all but settled science.

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 4:53 am

Who uses that term other than a discredited scientist and political actors?

nacho1 Logic Land
Today: 4:55 am

You never answered before...

Was it "settled science" for years Pluto was a planet?

Was Newtons observations "settled science" for centuries before Einstein?

cowboy Evil will not prevail
May 08, 7:09 am

There was no such thing as “Don’t Say Gay”

Liars and hypocrites.

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bnnt Los Angeles
May 08, 1:31 pm

The left always renames bills they don’t like.

Just like they do with language:
Legal term - illegal alien
Media - immigrant (no regard to legal or illegal)

Orwellian by practice.

MAGADREAMTEAM PURE BLOOD
May 08, 6:59 am

Disney today is a WOKE cesspool of degenerates !

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Diogenes Joy To The World
May 08, 7:54 am

Greedy degenerates

DallasFan
May 08, 6:54 am

A corporation goes the way that leads to more money 😱

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bartman71 USW
May 08, 5:26 am

In the little research I did, it is apparent, that area is in somewhat of a cultural change. Who knows where this goes. I admit, on the surface it does not appear to be a Disney destination.

BigJewfus Jew York
May 08, 4:32 am

lol. Corporations are all hypocrites. Disney would host a Klan rally if it was profitable.

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LibertyWatch000 Ohio
May 08, 7:07 am

I strongly believe this to be true. For many people money determines their morality.

LeapinPeep
May 08, 4:16 am

I'm utterly shocked that a company would choose to only have morals when it's profitable

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vitriol
May 08, 8:28 am

Yet it may be true for most corporations. The larger they are, the more dissolved their collective morality.