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rebelfury76 July 3rd, 2013 7:20am

Does the rise and institution of a police state in the US contradict the values of a free country?

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PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
07/03/13 12:47 am

Of course. This reminds me of a certain Benjamin Franklin quote. In my opinion, freedom and security cannot coexist.

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PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
07/03/13 5:35 am

They can coexist in that there are times when government is used to protect freedom. However, anything beyond that is either freedom or security. You can't have both.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/03/13 4:59 am

They always coexist. But they are the two opposite ends of a seesaw, and society is the fulcrum point. The closer you are to one end, the further you are from the other.
All security is totalitarianism, all freedom is anarchy.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
07/03/13 5:01 am

Anarchy is not inherently evil or a bad thing.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/03/13 5:02 am

A balance that strongly favors liberty, without requiring excessive risk is what works best in a free society.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/03/13 5:03 am

Thomas Jefferson said it best:
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others.
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God.
It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
07/03/13 5:05 am

I didn't say that it was, @Rebel. I think complete anarchy is an unworkable model, just as complete totalitarianism is an unworkable model.
I clarified with the next two posts.